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  • #23,261
  • Sep 30, 2023 5:34am Sep 30, 2023 5:34am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} program sucks. I am not interested in them because I find the owner to be a big liar and I’d rather not trade prop than give money to them
care to elaborate?
  • #23,262
  • Sep 30, 2023 5:37am Sep 30, 2023 5:37am
Quoting Jay3ast
{quote} care to elaborate?
not right now. Am in radiation treatment and it makes me moody.
  • #23,263
  • Sep 30, 2023 5:41am Sep 30, 2023 5:41am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} People not US residents be careful to check tax stuff with www.earn2trade.com It's not as easy as in other props.
They have a branch in dubai for non us i think
  • #23,264
  • Sep 30, 2023 5:42am Sep 30, 2023 5:42am
Quoting ladder
{quote} 60% profit split, 4000*60%=2400 '$500 montly fees ( apteros does NOT make money on those )' Seriously？For 100K account with only 4k total drawdown, you have to trade very small (max 2 futures contracts, I suggest only 1 contract), how much would you save on commissions per month？ You need to earn 250% to pass the challenge(10K target versus 4k drawdown). How long would it take for you to earn 250%? One year? Then you need to pay 500*12=6000$. And with all the effort, time and 6000$, you finally get a drawdown of 2400$. This...
“ 100% First Payout Bonus
As a testament to our belief in your trading skills, we offer a unique bonus—keep every single cent of your first payout, up to a staggering $100,000. It's our way of celebrating your initial success with Apteros.”


you forget that based on good risk/reward figures , they scale you up , in a few months you could be trading 10 to 20 contracts

dont compare the requirements of REAL prop firms with VIRTUAL one’s …..the first ones want you to succeed , the other ones ….
  • #23,265
  • Sep 30, 2023 6:00am Sep 30, 2023 6:00am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} “ 100% First Payout Bonus As a testament to our belief in your trading skills, we offer a unique bonus—keep every single cent of your first payout, up to a staggering $100,000. It's our way of celebrating your initial success with Apteros.” you forget that based on good risk/reward figures , they scale you up , in a few months you could be trading 10 to 20 contracts dont compare the requirements of REAL prop firms with VIRTUAL one’s …..the first ones want you to succeed , the other ones ….
Since you are working for or connected to Apteros, I suggest you better go somewhere else to promote Apteros, because many intelligent people are in this thread.

100% first payout is a trick to prevent traders from withdrawing profits. If Apteros really cares about traders, the rule should be traders can withdraw 100% up to $100,000, no matter how many payouts.
  • #23,266
  • Sep 30, 2023 6:01am Sep 30, 2023 6:01am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} “ 100% First Payout Bonus As a testament to our belief in your trading skills, we offer a unique bonus—keep every single cent of your first payout, up to a staggering $100,000. It's our way of celebrating your initial success with Apteros.” you forget that based on good risk/reward figures , they scale you up , in a few months you could be trading 10 to 20 contracts dont compare the requirements of REAL prop firms with VIRTUAL one’s …..the first ones want you to succeed , the other ones ….
Regardless of the 100% payout bonus on your first payout, this is still a very, very bad offer. Never consider joining them. There is no value.
  • #23,267
  • Sep 30, 2023 6:27am Sep 30, 2023 6:27am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} okay.. to do that, you have to create shortcut of the terminal and change its properties and in "target" set " "RAM DISK DRIVE:\MetaTrader 4\terminal.exe" /portable and boom.. problem resolved
Thats exactly how its done. Then I pin those shortcuts to the taskbar.

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  • #23,268
  • Sep 30, 2023 6:42am Sep 30, 2023 6:42am
Quoting ladder
{quote} Since you are working for or connected to Apteros, I suggest you better go somewhere else to promote Apteros, because many intelligent people are in this thread. 100% first payout is a trick to prevent traders from withdrawing profits. If Apteros really cares about traders, the rule should be traders can withdraw 100% up to $100,000, no matter how many payouts.

so they should risk $4000 on you and make $0 themselves and you get 100% of the rewards up to $100K ! ? Apteros is not a charity , my friend

100% first payout is a trick to encourage you to trade prudently and not give back too much of your profits to the markets so it lowers the risk that the $4000 drawdown gets hit and Apteros loses money on you..

I am 67 years old and have been a futures prop trader in my younger years , I have no affiliation with Apteros but from the remote options I have seen they are the number 1 IMHO

the better your risk/reward figures the quicker they will scale you up and get bigger drawdown limits , the only limit you will encounter is liquidity for your strategy , a scalper will hit that limit faster than a intraday swinger

I have given other options as well if you go over my posts

earn2trade.com
thetradingpit.com

I would even add topstep.com to that list


you mean all those intelligent people with no edge to a small edge that only have a chance to pass with the virtual prop firms and have to pray that they will get a payout ?
  • #23,269
  • Sep 30, 2023 7:01am Sep 30, 2023 7:01am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} just another child under estimating their tax residence status and the over arching laws that discuss operation of a business location before the domicile of that company. But it’s part and parcel of these idiots. I have some information I wish was public but promised not to share. But most of these prop firms should be avoided like the plague. Stick to ftmo and 5ers if you want to trade props. Ignore the rest, literally all of them.

I would also throw TFF in there w/ <10K payouts

400K FTMO + 200K TFF + 100K 5%ers.... everyone else = gambling money
  • #23,270
  • Edited 7:19am Sep 30, 2023 7:09am | Edited 7:19am
Quoting Jay3ast
From a layman perspective, the5ers looks solid, and the facts that they are an old player in the industry. But why not so many people flocks to buy their programs? What's avoiding them?
High stakes is a new program for them, everything else sucked since their inception. They don't do the aggressive influencer promotions & coupon sales like others. They also limit you to 100K max, so those with visions of lambos in their eyes avoid them.
  • #23,271
  • Edited 7:27am Sep 30, 2023 7:17am | Edited 7:27am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} just another child under estimating their tax residence status and the over arching laws that discuss operation of a business location before the domicile of that company. But it’s part and parcel of these idiots. I have some information I wish was public but promised not to share. But most of these prop firms should be avoided like the plague. Stick to ftmo and 5ers if you want to trade props. Ignore the rest, literally all of them.
ALL OF YOU , LISTEN GOOD TO THIS GUY , STICK TO WHAT HE RECOMMENDS IF YOU DONT CHOOSE A FUTURES PROP SHOP, HE HAS BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A FEW TIMES..
  • #23,272
  • Sep 30, 2023 7:35am Sep 30, 2023 7:35am
Quoting Capablanca
Just to clarify, props with trailing stop need a completely different approach. We are not just trading but also gaming their rules. The right way to approach them is to have high risk bets and withdraw all when succeeding (causing the account to be violated because we hit the trailed stop). Doing this once, twice, three times will lead people to be banned. Not doing this means that trailing stop will trail until the starting point. From that moment people are only trading their own profits but not getting 100% of that.
Correct, however on the futures side getting banned for that kind of behavior seems to be a non issue?!?!?!?
My approach is to nullify the trailing trap > Get the 100% split money > once it gets to a 90/10 split, cash out the remaining DD money and I'm out.
  • #23,273
  • Sep 30, 2023 7:39am Sep 30, 2023 7:39am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} ALL OF YOU , LISTEN GOOD TO THIS GUY , STICK TO WHAT HE RECOMMENDS IF YOU DONT CHOOSE A FUTURES PROP SHOP, HE HAS BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A FEW TIMES..
Seriously, he just changed his bias towards 5%ers today.
on a postive roll...
  • #23,274
  • Sep 30, 2023 8:01am Sep 30, 2023 8:01am
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  • #23,275
  • Sep 30, 2023 8:03am Sep 30, 2023 8:03am
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Thats exactly how its done. Then I pin those shortcuts to the taskbar. {image}
Installing metatrader in ram disk improves anything? Can you show me a link or is it worth do this? Because i bough a mini pc to serve as a home VPS 24h on for running my trade copier
  • #23,276
  • Sep 30, 2023 8:04am Sep 30, 2023 8:04am
Quoting TraderTero
{image} Department of Trading Ethics...
Fucking scam prop firm stay away, they for me are the worst ones
  • #23,277
  • Sep 30, 2023 8:11am Sep 30, 2023 8:11am
Quoting TraderTero
{image} Department of Trading Ethics...
pure madness, how the hell are they top 4 in FX prop web traffic with all these payment issues.
  • #23,278
  • Sep 30, 2023 8:17am Sep 30, 2023 8:17am
Quoting DeltaCapital
{quote} Installing metatrader in ram disk improves anything? Can you show me a link or is it worth do this? Because i bough a mini pc to serve as a home VPS 24h on for running my trade copier
limiting every mt4 instance max bars to 1000-3000 seems to give the biggest performance increase for me. I was able to run 8 mt4s on a 15 year old Intel Celeron with 8gb with no problem lol
  • #23,279
  • Sep 30, 2023 8:17am Sep 30, 2023 8:17am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} ALL OF YOU , LISTEN GOOD TO THIS GUY , STICK TO WHAT HE RECOMMENDS IF YOU DONT CHOOSE A FUTURES PROP SHOP, HE HAS BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A FEW TIMES..
  • #23,280
  • Sep 30, 2023 8:31am Sep 30, 2023 8:31am
Another weekend, another Funded Next story, LOL! Both of these are private, internal IP addresses--NOT public ones! They don't know anything about how IP addresses and networking actually works.
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