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  • #21,821
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:22am Sep 15, 2023 2:22am
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  • #21,822
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:22am Sep 15, 2023 2:22am
Quoting 1odi
{quote} what s the timeframe u are executing on? do u only look at 1 timeframe?
no, i see multiple timeframes, first i see where i can put my sl, then decide on lot size so that sl remain within the daily loss limit, and just click the mouse
as doughlas author of trading in the zone said that.. money is made or lost just with the click of a mouse.. that's it
  • #21,823
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:28am Sep 15, 2023 2:28am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} no, i see multiple timeframes, first i see where i can put my sl, then decide on lot size so that sl remain within the daily loss limit, and just click the mouse as doughlas author of trading in the zone said that.. money is made or lost just with the click of a mouse.. that's it
try and get the direction right, use a higher timeframe and a lower 1 for entry, make sure they are both pointing in the same direction. don t trade around news, rollovers, or iliquid times like Asia for instance. Not much of an advice, i know but i can t elaborate without knowing more. Anyways, stick with it, i saw u have unlimited time, maybe take a few days off and work on ur entry lvls and focus on quality trades rather then quantity.
  • #21,824
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:29am Sep 15, 2023 2:29am
now i am done for today.. almost max daily loss limit reached.. can't trade for today
will see, will plan trades on monday next week.. this time i really go with small lot size, yeah i know its easy to say, but hard to follow
i need to accept now that this account is gonna change your life once you get it funded.. thats why it really testing your patience..
you need to accept that it is going to take your a lot of time.. you need to go slow.. and focus on trades rather than lot size and big profit to makeup the drawdown fast and more 8% profit target to pass it..

believe its really hard to be correct consecutively
a trader can be correct 2 times, 3 times, but 4th time he will be wrong, and because he was right 3 times previously, so on 4th he will put bigger lot, and all 3 wins will be wiped out by the 4tth loss... that's exactly what happening..
  • #21,825
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:32am Sep 15, 2023 2:32am
I'm not sure how much of this is true and if there is reason for denial but BeSpoke is like Funded Next. Every week multiple cases of people claiming in Telegram for not having received the payout for some reason. These two companies outstand among all others in these allegations.

I'm curious to see what's the experience of TRAndy as he is waiting a reasonable payout. I hope he receives it without troubles.
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  • #21,826
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:36am Sep 15, 2023 2:36am
Quoting genuine007
now i am done for today.. almost max daily loss limit reached.. can't trade for today will see, will plan trades on monday next week.. this time i really go with small lot size, yeah i know its easy to say, but hard to follow i need to accept now that this account is gonna change your life once you get it funded.. thats why it really testing your patience.. you need to accept that it is going to take your a lot of time.. you need to go slow.. and focus on trades rather than lot size and big profit to makeup the drawdown fast and more 8% profit target...
Another thing, why do u trade so close into daily DD? u have no discipline and ur trying to rush things cos of ur current situation. take a few days off, set a plan of attack, some rules that would keep u away from losing that much in a day, and try and work out how a high probability setup looks to u.
I wouldn t have said anyhing, but it s not 1st time when u post here about these challenges ur facing, so...DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, otherwise u won t get a different result.
  • #21,827
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:36am Sep 15, 2023 2:36am
consider max daily loss as your 2 chances
when you have a fresh live account or challenge account, take risk on your daily stop limit, this is your chance_1
if you win its great, but if you lost.. You can't take risk on your daily stop limit, now use your chance_2 carefully in parts
now you have to first makeup the drawdown, bring the balance back to original and then take risk on your daily stop limit

thats i follow, when it comes to max daily loss
  • #21,828
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:40am Sep 15, 2023 2:40am
Quoting Capablanca
I'm not sure how much of this is true and if there is reason for denial but BeSpoke is like Funded Next. Every week multiple cases of people claiming in Telegram for not having received the payout for some reason. These two companies outstand among all others in these allegations. I'm curious to see what's the experience of TRAndy as he is waiting a reasonable payout. I hope he receives it without troubles. {image} {image}
This is what happens when you have a roided up kids who watched The Wolf of Wall Street one time too many.

You get shady and misleading advertising, money laundering, and banning anyone who's a threat. Personal success at any cost.
  • #21,829
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:44am Sep 15, 2023 2:44am
Quoting genuine007
consider max daily loss as your 2 chances when you have a fresh live account or challenge account, take risk on your daily stop limit, this is your chance_1 if you win its great, but if you lost.. You can't take risk on your daily stop limit, now use your chance_2 carefully in parts now you have to first makeup the drawdown, bring the balance back to original and then take risk on your daily stop limit thats i follow, when it comes to max daily loss
DUde, ur all over the place. u should never go near ur max dail DD. ur max risk per trade should be 1%, and that when ur above initial balance with atleast 1 or 2% profit. when in DD, u should risk only 0.5% per trade imo. u have unlimited time, u say u don t have money for other challenges, now it s not the time to be agressive...
work ur way to a payout, build a cushin, then u can be agressive on challenges.
  • #21,830
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:48am Sep 15, 2023 2:48am
Quoting 1odi
{quote} Another thing, why do u trade so close into daily DD? u have no discipline and ur trying to rush things cos of ur current situation. take a few days off, set a plan of attack, some rules that would keep u away from losing that much in a day, and try and work out how a high probability setup looks to u. I wouldn t have said anyhing, but it s not 1st time when u post here about these challenges ur facing, so...DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, otherwise u won t get a different result.

i am in little hurry and risking daily loss limit as i have big debt which i am paying in monthly installment every month
and my tiny 2 live accounts of 10k each are not enough, i am just getting around 300$ every 14days from these two accounts which is not enough
all going in emi, instead of these 2 live 10k, if this e8 250k i got luckily, i say luckily because luck involved in trading, you have risk management, plan its okay..
but when i say luck, it means what you thought, what you planned, actually happened.. thats luck..
we can't drag and drop price by ourself on the chart, price will do anything, but if luckily it did what you thought.. its amazing,
but sometimes even if you are right... you may be not hold trade till tp... because in past, majority of times, price did not did.. what you planned for...
so even if trade is going in your favour... you fear that this time also something bad can happen..
  • #21,831
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:52am Sep 15, 2023 2:52am
Quoting 1odi
{quote} DUde, ur all over the place. u should never go near ur max dail DD. ur max risk per trade should be 1%, and that when ur above initial balance with atleast 1 or 2% profit. when in DD, u should risk only 0.5% per trade imo. u have unlimited time, u say u don t have money for other challenges, now it s not the time to be agressive... work ur way to a payout, build a cushin, then u can be agressive on challenges.
yeah from monday.. i have to be conservative with this account.. risking small..
and on monday.. i will request payouts combined total of 400 $ from tff and spt
much needed payouts.. as now i am fully dependent on this trading alone, no job and no side income
  • #21,832
  • Sep 15, 2023 2:56am Sep 15, 2023 2:56am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} i am in little hurry and risking daily loss limit as i have big debt which i am paying in monthly installment every month and my tiny 2 live accounts of 10k each are not enough, i am just getting around 300$ every 14days from these two accounts which is not enough all going in emi, instead of these 2 live 10k, if this e8 250k i got luckily, i say luckily because luck involved in trading, you have risk management, plan its okay.. but when i say luck, it means what you thought, what you planned, actually happened.. thats luck.. we can't drag...
OK, think about it this way..if u lose the 250k account, what then? U won t have enough money anyway. so take the time to sort things out trading wise, stop rushing things or u ll never make it. You have to be prepared and know what ur doing in worder to get +lucky+ in trading, most of the times.
  • #21,833
  • Sep 15, 2023 3:01am Sep 15, 2023 3:01am
Quoting 1odi
{quote} OK, think about it this way..if u lose the 250k account, what then? U won t have enough money anyway. so take the time to sort things out trading wise, stop rushing things or u ll never make it. You have to be prepared and know what ur doing in worder to get +lucky+ in trading, most of the times.
yeah.. if somehow this e8 250k breached without passing without refund without payout
man.. that will be very bad for me.. it was luck that i put a good trade on my personal account and from that money i able to buy this.. otherwise i would not able to buy this account.. this account can take me out of this trading loss and debt mess.. its very important for me..

i need to pass it, i will teach my mind to just go slow again.. take time, dont hurry, make a conservative plan and stick to it,
don't again become aggressive in the middle..
  • #21,834
  • Sep 15, 2023 3:13am Sep 15, 2023 3:13am
Quoting Capablanca
I'm not sure how much of this is true and if there is reason for denial but BeSpoke is like Funded Next. Every week multiple cases of people claiming in Telegram for not having received the payout for some reason. These two companies outstand among all others in these allegations. I'm curious to see what's the experience of TRAndy as he is waiting a reasonable payout. I hope he receives it without troubles. {image} {image}
Those people are cheating. That guy below you mentioned was caught in reverse trading across accounts. So that is of course not allowed. Actually I do not worry.
  • #21,835
  • Sep 15, 2023 3:45am Sep 15, 2023 3:45am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Those people are cheating. That guy below you mentioned was caught in reverse trading across accounts. So that is of course not allowed. Actually I do not worry.
You will cry when that kid of Bespoke refuses your 30K payouts and terminates all your accounts. You better keep your monthly payout below 10K. But what's the point when you have one million $ funded accounts but only make 4-figure per month?
  • #21,836
  • Sep 15, 2023 3:52am Sep 15, 2023 3:52am
Quoting ladder
{quote} You will cry when that kid of Bespoke refuses your 30K payouts and terminates all your accounts. You better keep your monthly payout below 10K. But what's the point when you have one million $ funded accounts but only make 4-figure per month?
As I said I have no worries as I did not cheat and I traded all manually and clean. I am already making 5-figures. So with these props I wanted to make mid 5-figures.
I have no interest in making 4-figures only per month. That would be a waste of my time and I would rather trade only my personal account instead. Actually I do not trade my personal accounts as I can make much more with these prop accounts. But let's see if I will get paid out. Soon I will know that, within one week from now.
  • #21,837
  • Sep 15, 2023 3:53am Sep 15, 2023 3:53am
Quoting ladder
{quote} You will cry when that kid of Bespoke refuses your 30K payouts and terminates all your accounts. You better keep your monthly payout below 10K. But what's the point when you have one million $ funded accounts but only make 4-figure per month?
at some point, I fully expect a 180-degrees turnaround
  • #21,838
  • Sep 15, 2023 3:57am Sep 15, 2023 3:57am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Those people are cheating.
You can't be sure about that without looking at evidence.
  • #21,839
  • Sep 15, 2023 4:00am Sep 15, 2023 4:00am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} You can't be sure about that without looking at evidence.
I have the evidence as I said. Just inform yourself if you have doubts here. Everyone who got his payout denied on Bespoke cheated. Many are using HFT EAs to get their Eightcap accounts passed. Some do reverse trading across multiple prop firm accounts. They all cheat. That is not allowed and I can understand that they get their payout denied. I have seen many proofs of that. So there is no reason that when I traded clean I get my payout denied. But I will inform you next week what happened.
  • #21,840
  • Edited 4:23am Sep 15, 2023 4:08am | Edited 4:23am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} I have the evidence as I said. Just inform yourself if you have doubts here. Everyone who got his payout denied on Bespoke cheated. Many are using HFT EAs to get their Eightcap accounts passed. Some do reverse trading across multiple prop firm accounts. They all cheat. That is not allowed and I can understand that they get their payout denied. I have seen many proofs of that. So there is no reason that when I traded clean I get my payout denied. But I will inform you next week what happened.
OK, good to know that you revised dozens or hundreds of claims of denied payouts and all were legitim denials.

This leave us all know much more relaxed about the honesty of this prop. Thanks for your insigths.
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