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  • #18,521
  • Aug 13, 2023 10:53am Aug 13, 2023 10:53am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-My point is that we do not need regulators trying to control what we legally choose to do with our own money. I think that it is ridiculous to even consider this. Protection from ourselves. While we're at it, let's allow regulators to decide how much we can gamble at a casino or how much we can eat or drink. I know that you agree with me. But I just want to make it clear that I do not think that regulation should have any part in controlling gambling addictions, food addictions, drinking addictions or whatever other addictions that people...
it s tough to wake up when most don t even have a highschool education. it s a survey worldwide that has been done, not my own assesment. but hold on tight, it s about to end, 2024 it s here, and i think the hegemony of USA as the lider of the free world is coming to an end. the dollar is about to take a huge dive in coming years like never before. the powers are shifting, and unless some miracle happens, people will be forced to -wake up-.
  • #18,522
  • Aug 13, 2023 11:18am Aug 13, 2023 11:18am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-My point is that we do not need regulators trying to control what we legally choose to do with our own money. I think that it is ridiculous to even consider this. Protection from ourselves. While we're at it, let's allow regulators to decide how much we can gamble at a casino or how much we can eat or drink. I know that you agree with me. But I just want to make it clear that I do not think that regulation should have any part in controlling gambling addictions, food addictions, drinking addictions or whatever other addictions that people...
Nations only care about its own self interest. Not about people. If all people became gambling addicts and thus sending all cash to unregulated prop firms how do you think it will end. It may seem far fetched but it is the reality and could happen. Why do you think they went full ham on the poker industry. Since they care for people?
If prop firms dont take the gambling addiction serious. Nations themselves sure will. Take your pick. Countdown begins.
This is the last comment I do on this, since this can easily go off topic.
  • #18,523
  • Aug 13, 2023 11:40am Aug 13, 2023 11:40am
Quoting labu
Nations only care about its own self interest. Not about people. If all people became gambling addicts and thus sending all cash to unregulated prop firms how do you think it will end. It may seem far fetched but it is the reality and could happen. Why do you think they went full ham on the poker industry. Since they care for people? If prop firms dont take the gambling addiction serious. Nations themselves sure will. Take your pick. Countdown begins. This is the last comment I do on this, since this can easily go off topic.
-And thieves only care about taking what's yours, but that does not mean that we should just tuck our heads between our legs and allow it.

Your original statement regarding this issue was that you were hoping from some kind of regulation to deter gambling. It seems that your reasoning for wanting that is because you believe that it is inevitable. The logic makes my head hurt.
  • #18,524
  • Aug 13, 2023 11:49am Aug 13, 2023 11:49am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-And thieves only care about taking what's yours, but that does not mean that we should just tuck our heads between our legs and allow it. Your original statement regarding this issue was that you were hoping from some kind of regulation to deter gambling. It seems that your reasoning for wanting that is because you believe that it is inevitable. The logic makes my head hurt.
I stopped not being realistic decades ago. Reality is reality and how this world works atm. Nations do what they want. Or let the people go around in circles thinking they can make a change. hint France yellow vests. But I must constrain myself here to not go off topic.

Its best to be realistic see the dangers then react as in do whats necessary if time comes to move away from prop firms and such instead of living in a fantasy. Since you like quotes here an old one. "Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst".
  • #18,525
  • Aug 13, 2023 12:06pm Aug 13, 2023 12:06pm
Quoting labu
{quote} I stopped not being realistic decades ago. Reality is reality and how this world works atm. Nations do what they want. Or let the people go around in circles thinking they can make a change. hint France yellow vests. But I must constrain myself here to not go off topic. Its best to be realistic see the dangers then react as in do whats necessary if time comes to move away from prop firms and such instead of living in a fantasy. Since you like quotes here an old one. "Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst".
from my experience only people that lose money trading call for regulation and so on. and not only in trading, in all sorts of endevours. how the world works has nothing to do with ur posts buddy. best learn how to trade, and if u can t, focus on something else... calling for regulation won t do sh!t for u, nor it will impact the industry. and even if the prop firms go under, u can still trade and be well off rather then ur regular 9 to 5 etc. but then again, that would require beeing profitable.
  • #18,526
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:10pm Aug 13, 2023 1:10pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} from my experience only people that lose money trading call for regulation and so on. and not only in trading, in all sorts of endevours. how the world works has nothing to do with ur posts buddy. best learn how to trade, and if u can t, focus on something else... calling for regulation won t do sh!t for u, nor it will impact the industry. and even if the prop firms go under, u can still trade and be well off rather then ur regular 9 to 5 etc. but then again, that would require beeing profitable.
Personal attacks and emotions what does that have to do with anything here. Facts are facts. Look at the world instead of running out of arguments which isnt even on topic. You know I'm right. So why direct your emotions at me instead of dealing with them on your own. We are here to learn most of us. No need to boast your illusionary ego here which is about profits in a credit based economic system. Where they pump money from thin air. So you want to boast about profits in a system like that. All right. Reality is still reality no matter how much you try to do personal attacks you know Im right what I wrote.

Those who dont care about regulations tends to be those who are very selfish dont care about others. Just themselves and their golden stones.
  • #18,527
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:16pm Aug 13, 2023 1:16pm
Quoting labu
{quote} Personal attacks and emotions what does that have to do with anything here. Facts are facts. Look at the world instead of running out of arguments which isnt even on topic. You know I'm right. So why direct your emotions at me instead of dealing with them on your own. We are here to learn most of us. No need to boast your illusionary ego here which is about profits in a credit based economic system. Where they pump money from thin air. So you want to boast about profits in a system like that. All right. Reality is still reality no matter...

ur post says it all, i won t even bother to argue with that type of logic. good luck buddy
  • #18,528
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:19pm Aug 13, 2023 1:19pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} ur post says it all, i won t even bother to argue with that type of logic. good luck buddy
Wheres the flawed logic instead of just laughing like a maniac man. You think you can change the world. Ok good for you, if someone cant even reason with logics but just laugh and try to harass. How can I take you serious at all. Like a kid who tries to act tough on a forum and you are like 60 years old? Maybe time to grow up. Ok wont take this further. Just tired of bullies in general on the web. Here I wont tolerate it aslong as im allowed.
  • #18,529
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:26pm Aug 13, 2023 1:26pm
Quoting labu
{quote} Wheres the flawed logic instead of just laughing like a maniac man. You think you can change the world. Ok good for you, if someone cant even reason with logics but just laugh and try to harass. How can I take you serious at all. Like a kid who tries to act tough on a forum and you are like 60 years old? Maybe time to grow up. Ok wont take this further. Just tired of bullies in general on the web. Here I wont tolerate it aslong as im allowed.

it s all emotion bud. all i can do is laugh. now it s harrassment? so who doesn t agree with u it s harrassing you? trying to act tough on internet? i merely answered to ur post in a polite manner disagreeing with ur so called world view. i ain t trying to belittle u. ur doing a fine job all by urself. have a good day
  • #18,530
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:28pm Aug 13, 2023 1:28pm
Quoting labu
{quote} Wheres the flawed logic instead of just laughing like a maniac man. You think you can change the world. Ok good for you, if someone cant even reason with logics but just laugh and try to harass. How can I take you serious at all. Like a kid who tries to act tough on a forum and you are like 60 years old? Maybe time to grow up. Ok wont take this further. Just tired of bullies in general on the web. Here I wont tolerate it aslong as im allowed.
now i see from where is this coming from, u edited the bullying part. now it makes sence. sorry to read that. anyways, good luck bud
  • #18,531
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:29pm Aug 13, 2023 1:29pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} it s all emotion bud. all i can do is laugh. now it s harrassment? so who doesn t agree with u it s harrassing you? trying to act tough on internet? i merely answered to ur post in a polite manner disagreeing with ur so called world...
Belittle is harassment. Mocking. Trying to ridicule. I bet you have some nice memories from childhood doing that to other kids and throughout your entire life. Congrats.
  • #18,532
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:32pm Aug 13, 2023 1:32pm
Quoting labu
{quote} Belittle is harassment. Mocking. Trying to ridicule. I bet you have some nice memories from childhood doing that to other kids and throughout your entire life. Congrats.
like i said, it s not worth disputing ur believes or the way u see the world. u have no arguments and u make assumptions based on flawed logic. have a good day bud.
  • #18,533
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:34pm Aug 13, 2023 1:34pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} like i said, it s not worth disputing ur believes or the way u see the world. u have no arguments and u make assumptions based on flawed logic. have a good day bud.
I can back up everything I say with evidence and proof which is obvious. Even from govts papers. But those who do not want to see reality they will use anything they can to not since they prefer to live in fantasy. It is called cognitive dissonance. Even if all evidence is provided for them so a kid can understand it. They refuse and kinda behave like you do now.
  • #18,534
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:38pm Aug 13, 2023 1:38pm
Quoting labu
{quote} I can back up everything I say with evidence and proof which is obvious. Even from govts papers. But those who do not want to see reality they will use anything they can to not. It is called cognitive dissonance. Even if all evidence is provided for them so a kid can understand it. They refuse and kinda behave like you do now.
u are perfectly right. cognitive dissonance? u looked that up real quick? go dispute that in parliament.
listen, it s clear u don t wanna face the truth, which s u can t trade, and instead of taking it as constructive criticism u started blabbering in all directions, trying to confuse the hell out of people. nvrmd. for the last time, have a good day bud/
  • #18,535
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:42pm Aug 13, 2023 1:42pm
Quoting labu
Those who dont care about regulations tends to be those who are very selfish dont care about others. Just themselves and their golden stones.
-The opposite could be said about this statement.

Generally speaking, regulation comes as a result of the minority doing stupid things and/or complaining, which often leads to restrictive, burdensome regulation that ultimately ends up ruining things for the majority. This is true for money laundering laws, terror-funding as well as other criminal activity (scammers). Most regulation in this space (at least where I am) is self-serving and/or restrictive by nature and does not actually protect people from nefarious actors.

Also, this is not a matter of not caring about regulation, but making a vocal stand by saying that we do not want, nor need, regulation that prohibits people from legally making use of their own money as they see fit. There is good regulation, and then there is bad regulation. This would be bad regulation. If you cannot see that, then there isn't much else to say on the matter.
  • #18,536
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:44pm Aug 13, 2023 1:44pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} u are perfectly right. cognitive dissonance? u looked that up real quick? go dispute that in parliament. listen, it s clear u don t wanna face the truth, which s u can t trade, and instead of taking it as constructive criticism u started blabbering in all directions, trying to confuse the hell out of people. nvrmd. for the last time, have a good day bud/
Once a bully starts to open his mouth and spew dirty things. Im sorry I cannot let that happen in a place like this. I want it to be of higher standards.
  • #18,537
  • Edited 2:02pm Aug 13, 2023 1:52pm | Edited 2:02pm
Quoting labu
{quote} Once a bully starts to open his mouth and spew dirty things. Im sorry I cannot let that happen in a place like this. I want it to be of higher standards.
dude, ur really starting to go off rails here. i ain t bullying no1 here, but i think ur outrage comes from beeing bulied to much, which i said i m sorry if that happened to u. whoever reads this conversation from where it started and till now, can easily realise that ur a bit unhinged. this is eaxctly why i refrained from disputing ur silly arguments and views further, cos i could see this turning into a never ending crap.
BTW, this is a forum for traders, and this thread is for prop traders.
u want regulations? go make a complaint to the regulatory body!!! go tell them that ur living in a credit system and that s why u can t make it in trading.
  • #18,538
  • Aug 13, 2023 1:55pm Aug 13, 2023 1:55pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} dude, ur really starting to go off rails here. i ain t bullying no1 here, but i think ur outrage comes from beeing bulied to much, whick i said i m sorry if hat happened to u. whoever reads this conversation from where it started and till now, can easily realise that ur a bit unhinged. this is eaxctly why i refrained from disputing ur silly arguments and views further, cos i could see this turning in a never ending crap. BTW, this is a forum for traders, and this thread is for prop traders. u want regulations? go make a complaint to the...
If theres only malice, no humble, not decency. Then why even open your mouth. Makes no sense. Wheres the logic in that apart from trying to feed your illusionary ego which just proves you live in fantasy world if so. Using pure logics. Ok back to prop firms. Regulations incoming unless prop firms do something.
  • #18,539
  • Aug 13, 2023 2:03pm Aug 13, 2023 2:03pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-My point is that we do not need regulators trying to control what we legally choose to do with our own money. I think that it is ridiculous to even consider this. Protection from ourselves. While we're at it, let's allow regulators to decide how much we can gamble at a casino or how much we can eat or drink. I know that you agree with me. But I just want to make it clear that I do not think that regulation should have any part in controlling gambling addictions, food addictions, drinking addictions or whatever other addictions that people...
Right, make everyone get jabbed with a bullshit vax, but be sure to pick up a big mac, large fries and a pack of smokes on the way home. I have somehow managed to stay in fantastic shape since high school sports...... strength training, cardio, now as I am getting older, intermittent fasting, very low carbs/sugar. Off topic a bit from regulation, but not really....the things the government makes money from, they don't give two shits if it kills you.
They will never regulate what you eat or drink. They want you sick. There is more money for big pharma treating the sick, then there is in promoting a healthy lifestyle. Regualtion is all a disguise to make the naive think they are being protected, yet, nothing could be further from the truth.
  • #18,540
  • Edited 3:19pm Aug 13, 2023 2:14pm | Edited 3:19pm
Quoting noox
{quote} Not so long ago you were boasting here and the cable thread about being fully funded with MFF. Now you're down to 3. Stop losing funded accounts should be your #1 priority.
This comment will ruin you.
Being positive and staying positive you can go long way.
Having said, if you continue loosing, stop coming here and work on your technicals, emotions.
Good luck
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