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  • #18,061
  • Jul 19, 2023 4:31am Jul 19, 2023 4:31am
Quoting youngD
{quote} I think 400 pips it's too much. Anyway that is why I trade indeces mainly there is no spread widening like fx. Fx only day trading.
here’s how you know it’s bullshit. The spike was 80 pips. Claiming 400 pips means it’s bullshit.
  • #18,062
  • Jul 19, 2023 6:56am Jul 19, 2023 6:56am
My favorite hobby is going to prop firm's discords at rollover and especially at key news times like NFP etc and watching people bitch and moan about blowing their accs.

Recently I've done it on a live stream with a group of traders, and we had so much fun, we were in tears.

I think this could become a thing. We already have a "prop firm comedy" channel in our private discord.
  • #18,063
  • Jul 19, 2023 9:31am Jul 19, 2023 9:31am
Quoting LehmanBrotha
My favorite hobby is going to prop firm's discords at rollover and especially at key news times like NFP etc and watching people bitch and moan about blowing their accs. Recently I've done it on a live stream with a group of traders, and we had so much fun, we were in tears. I think this could become a thing. We already have a "prop firm comedy" channel in our private discord.
That would be a success
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E8 is about to launch / announce something on Monday:
https://twitter.com/e8funding/status...FuRw-9OJltSXVA
  • #18,064
  • Jul 19, 2023 9:45am Jul 19, 2023 9:45am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} That would be a success ------- E8 is about to launch / announce something on Monday: https://twitter.com/e8funding/status...FuRw-9OJltSXVA
are they still sticking with the time limit?

The last of the Mohicans
  • #18,065
  • Jul 19, 2023 9:55am Jul 19, 2023 9:55am
Quoting LehmanBrotha
{quote} are they still sticking with the time limit? The last of the Mohicans
They are teasing with....."Have all of the other firms forgotten about the other half of traders?"
I am trying to decipher what this means. It leads me to believe it has nothing to do with time limits though.
  • #18,066
  • Jul 19, 2023 10:02am Jul 19, 2023 10:02am
I think he is referring to the gambling traders that people keep mentioning in this thread. "WHAT ABOUT THE ONES WHO ONLY NEED 30 DAYS BRO".
Its going to be a brutal December when revenues dry up.
  • #18,067
  • Jul 19, 2023 11:05am Jul 19, 2023 11:05am
Quoting TraderTero
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that roided Bespoke kid CEO refused to address this in prop firm group except "that trader violated T&C"

A whole bunch of white knights jumped in defense (probably those who buy 5k accs). People who asked meaningful questions (like what if this tomorrow happens to you?) got banned.

Admin can't bite the hand that feeds him.
  • #18,068
  • Jul 19, 2023 11:06am Jul 19, 2023 11:06am
Quoting LehmanBrotha
{quote} are they still sticking with the time limit? The last of the Mohicans
They said they would not do that (time limit). Let's see what they invent.
  • #18,069
  • Jul 19, 2023 11:08am Jul 19, 2023 11:08am
Quoting LehmanBrotha
{quote} that roided Bespoke kid CEO refused to address this in prop firm group except "that trader violated T&C" A whole bunch of white knights jumped in defense (probably those who buy 5k accs). People who asked meaningful questions (like what if this tomorrow happens to you?) got banned. Admin can't bite the hand that feeds him.
hey bro, the world changed cos of him HE GOT THE BIG GUYS TO MOVE BRO. ITS ALL ABOUT HIM.
  • #18,070
  • Jul 19, 2023 11:11am Jul 19, 2023 11:11am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} hey bro, the world changed cos of him HE GOT THE BIG GUYS TO MOVE BRO. ITS ALL ABOUT HIM.
changed the world with a single pinch of a needle
  • #18,071
  • Jul 19, 2023 11:13am Jul 19, 2023 11:13am
Quoting LehmanBrotha
{quote} that roided Bespoke kid CEO refused to address this in prop firm group except "that trader violated T&C" A whole bunch of white knights jumped in defense (probably those who buy 5k accs). People who asked meaningful questions (like what if this tomorrow happens to you?) got banned. Admin can't bite the hand that feeds him.
It's a bit more complex than that. I'll re-post Sir Ghost's comment because he/she summed it up best:

"@KalerFX has NOT refused to share what that particular trader did wrong. He has said that he won't share unless the trader comes out first in this platform and brings his case to the court of public opinion. This he has made clear its due to legality of the process. If you want Bespoke to share what he did wrong, find that trader and ask them to share what happened to them. Even from the Trust Pilot comment, the trader was very careful not to say a word of what happened other than to say their account was breached. So find them, bring them. Here or in any public place. Bespoke will respond. Until then, you respect their privacy concerns."

I too would like to know specifically what rule was violated, but if he reveals it then people will demand proof (understandably), and if he shares proof without the account owner's permission or them sharing their data first then he gets accused of violating personal information as happened before, etc., etc. It's sort of an impossible situation for some of these prop firms. There are scammers on both sides (traders and firms) and it's hard to read between the lines and determine who is scamming who sometimes.
  • #18,072
  • Jul 19, 2023 11:26am Jul 19, 2023 11:26am
Quoting AaronPriest
{quote} It's a bit more complex than that. I'll re-post Sir Ghost's comment because he/she summed it up best: "@KalerFX has NOT refused to share what that particular trader did wrong. He has said that he won't share unless the trader comes out first in this platform and brings his case to the court of public opinion. This he has made clear its due to legality of the process. If you want Bespoke to share what he did wrong, find that trader and ask them to share what happened to them. Even from the Trust Pilot comment, the trader was very careful...
I still think the firm should be able to provide more than just "violated T&C."
If you don't press the firm, you are just welcoming them with wide arms to ban anyone "above the threshold."

Afterward, it'd be up to the trader to provide the data for his innocence since it is his data to share.
  • #18,073
  • Jul 19, 2023 11:32am Jul 19, 2023 11:32am
Quoting LehmanBrotha
{quote} I still think the firm should be able to provide more than just "violated T&C." If you don't press the firm, you are just opening them with wide arms to ban anyone "above the threshold." Afterward, it'd be up to the trader to provide the data for his innocence since it is his data to share.
I agree, but then we are still just taking the firm's word on it with no proof, so it doesn't really matter from their perspective. It's almost worse PR to detail anything. Sigh...
  • #18,074
  • Jul 19, 2023 11:54am Jul 19, 2023 11:54am
Quoting AaronPriest
{quote} I agree, but then we are still just taking the firm's word on it with no proof
Yet it is a start in the right direction.
It means taking them as far as they're legally allowed to go. Afterwards, it comes up to the trader to step up - however, given exact reasons, it would be relatively simple to disprove the allegations.

Remember, this trader specifically says they were denied details of their wrongdoing - even after offering an in-detail explanation of trading activities, strategies, and all.

I keep coming back to this example because recently, I spoke with a friend of mine who's an order of magnitude better trader than I am - a legit self-made millionaire. He mentioned Bespoke as one of the firms where he could amass the most capital quickly without waiting to scale up.

That example makes me think that other brilliant traders might think the same and that this situation might be legit.

p.s. my pal is prioritizing MFF now.
  • #18,075
  • Jul 19, 2023 12:02pm Jul 19, 2023 12:02pm
Quoting LehmanBrotha
He mentioned Bespoke as one of the firms where he could amass the most capital quickly without waiting to scale up.
Reason for him to say that must be trading conditions ? Did he specified (like good execution, spreads, commissions) ?
  • #18,076
  • Jul 19, 2023 12:03pm Jul 19, 2023 12:03pm
If someone is thinking about purchasing TFF I saw this in their Discord

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  • #18,077
  • Jul 19, 2023 12:12pm Jul 19, 2023 12:12pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Reason for him to say that must be trading conditions ? Did he specified (like good execution, spreads, commissions) ?
No. He thinks more or less all 8c(r)ap companies are similar. Bespoke stood out in allowing for the fastest acquisition of large funding in a short time.

regarding best execution, spreads and comms - we were in agreement that alpha capital might be the best - at least for intra-day people. However, they do have restrictions like 200k largest acc, only one acc active, etc.
  • #18,078
  • Jul 19, 2023 2:49pm Jul 19, 2023 2:49pm
Quoting noox
{quote} both MFF and FTMO publish trader interviews and payouts all the time. your secret method yields results only because you weren't looking.
Might be. But not in the same amount of frequency as the rest. As I did look through the social medias and recent activities during the time. Having one interview with some random guy once per month and being subtle about it isn't the same as shoving it down your throat everyday to whip your mind to pay them. With that very few stood out as non thug marketing methods.

Btw. Respect to those who do this for a living. I was one of those. How hard can it be... Several years later and I'm still at starting ramp. If one truly wants to learn about trading. Then the grind is real. You cannot just give up for the day once you are in profit as some trading gurus say. Because sooner or later you will encounter a trading situation you could have learned from and avoided if you just traded a bit more and learned from it. There's no easy road on this path.
  • #18,079
  • Jul 19, 2023 4:01pm Jul 19, 2023 4:01pm
Quoting labu
{quote} Might be. But not in the same amount of frequency as the rest. As I did look through the social medias and recent activities during the time. Having one interview with some random guy once per month and being subtle about it isn't the same as shoving it down your throat everyday to whip your mind to pay them. With that very few stood out as non thug marketing methods. Btw. Respect to those who do this for a living. I was one of those. How hard can it be... Several years later and I'm still at starting ramp. If one truly wants to learn about...
MFF opened their books to thepropjournalist and they confirmed the payout values were true. 109 million this yr to some date in july I think it was 7th or something. The myfundedfx junkies were screaming at them to prove it so I guess they did.
  • #18,080
  • Jul 19, 2023 5:40pm Jul 19, 2023 5:40pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} MFF opened their books to thepropjournalist and they confirmed the payout values were true. 109 million this yr to some date in july I think it was 7th or something. The myfundedfx junkies were screaming at them to prove it so I guess they did.
You claim a lot of things without proof. Post a link thepropjournalist confirmed that mff payout values were true and the myfundedfx junkies were screaming at them to prove it
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