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  • #16,161
  • May 29, 2023 5:24am May 29, 2023 5:24am
Quoting gatorinla
As soon as the language evolves from today's wording. Let me know.
-I am letting you know. Nobody considers eating dinner or going to bed gambling (or a gamble etc.). Just because something carries risk does not mean that it is gambling. You can try to simplify anything in order to make something work or to make sense, but that does not mean that it will be correct.

Just to remind you, also, that this thread is for discussing prop firms, not for debating language.
  • #16,162
  • May 29, 2023 8:12am May 29, 2023 8:12am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} As soon as the language evolves from today's wording. Let me know. 550 years ago, most in Europe would of bet/gambled the world was flat. Their opinion didnt change fact. It never does, it wont today.
I hope they don't change the definition. If they do, it means the government has an agenda behind it They have already changed the definition of vaccine and gender to fit the agenda. 90% of the world didn't even notice.
  • #16,163
  • May 29, 2023 8:16am May 29, 2023 8:16am
Quoting LehmanBrotha
{quote} sole reason I switched from poker to trading was scalability. Online poker market got smaller and the field got tougher over the years. Requires much harder work than trading and it is not that scalable.
I did as well. A lot of online poker players now do the daily fantasy sports. Poker was shut down because it is gambling, with the argument being it is not a game of skill. It is, indeed, a game of skill, with better players holding an edge over inferior players.
  • #16,164
  • May 29, 2023 9:31am May 29, 2023 9:31am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I did as well. A lot of online poker players now do the daily fantasy sports. Poker was shut down because it is gambling, with the argument being it is not a game of skill. It is, indeed, a game of skill, with better players holding an edge over inferior players.
yup, and nowadays there is way more stupid money in trading than in poker - so, why not take it?
I mean, even prop firms that operate as Ponzi schemes pay you- a legit trader, by taking the money from inferior traders.
  • #16,165
  • May 29, 2023 12:07pm May 29, 2023 12:07pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I hope they don't change the definition. If they do, it means the government has an agenda behind it They have already changed the definition of vaccine and gender to fit the agenda. 90% of the world didn't even notice.
Yeah that started when a POW's hero label was changed. To some moron's view. It's amazing when one is wrong, they change the subject. Oh well, I am used to misdirection.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #16,166
  • May 29, 2023 1:44pm May 29, 2023 1:44pm
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  • #16,167
  • May 29, 2023 2:26pm May 29, 2023 2:26pm
Quoting pipmaster77
I hope they don't change the definition. If they do, it means the government has an agenda behind it They have already changed the definition of vaccine and gender to fit the agenda. 90% of the world didn't even notice.
Quoting gatorinla
Yeah that started when a POW's hero label was changed. To some moron's view. It's amazing when one is wrong, they change the subject. Oh well, I am used to misdirection.
-Had the world governments changed the definition to match your idea of what gambling is, then nearly everything would be illegal and fully-controlled by the government in most countries. That sounds pretty moronic to me.
  • #16,168
  • May 29, 2023 2:58pm May 29, 2023 2:58pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}{quote}-Had the world governments changed the definition to match your idea of what gambling is, then nearly everything would be illegal and fully-controlled by the government in most countries. That sounds pretty moronic to me.
Dude your talking in circles. The definition has never changed. You keep running down rabbit holes trying to change the narrative. The risk of anything, in hope of gain is gambling. It has nothing to do with government, street crossing, or whatever else you throw at the wall. Your throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. I got no problem gambling, speculation, investing, or whatever you feel better calling it. It may be taboo to use the word in some homes, or religions. Maybe a way, to keep the wife off ones ass. No matter how you look at it. Everyone does it. All cultures do it. From risking some of the wheat harvest seeds. To plant, instead of eating them. To buying prize stud goat to sire your heard. Drought can kill your seeds. You new goat may drop dead before reproducing. There is always risk, there's always uncertainty. That is gambling.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #16,169
  • May 29, 2023 3:23pm May 29, 2023 3:23pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} Dude your talking in circles. The definition has never changed. You keep running down rabbit holes trying to change the narrative. The risk of anything, in hope of gain is gambling. It has nothing to do with government, street crossing, or whatever else you throw at the wall. Your throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. I got no problem gambling, speculation, investing, or whatever you feel better calling it. It may be taboo to use the word in some homes, or religions. Maybe a way, to keep the wife off ones ass. No matter how you look...
Ya I tell everyone that what I am doing is a form of gambling in order to pre-empt them telling me that I am gambling.
  • #16,170
  • May 29, 2023 3:32pm May 29, 2023 3:32pm
Quoting gatorinla
Dude your talking in circles. The definition has never changed. You keep running down rabbit holes trying to change the narrative.
-No, I am just responding to your idiocy. You derailed this thread with an off-topic post, trying to say that everything is considered gambling. You think that any activity that carries risk is considered gambling, and since everything in life can carry risk, then everything in life is considered gambling. This is completely ignorant. For the record, you are the one that mentioned walking across the street, so you can keep your pasta.

Better for you to take your delusional ramblings to a different thread. Not even sure what your purpose is here. And with 92,000+ posts, I would even question what your purpose is in life.
  • #16,171
  • May 29, 2023 3:58pm May 29, 2023 3:58pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-No, I am just responding to your idiocy. You derailed this thread with an off-topic post, trying to say that everything is considered gambling. You think that any activity that carries risk is considered gambling, and since everything in life can carry risk, then everything in life is considered gambling. This is completely ignorant. For the record, you are the one that mentioned walking across the street, so you can keep your pasta. Better for you to take your delusional ramblings to a different thread. Not even sure what your purpose is...
anything holds risk in life>therefore is a Gamble. why is that so tough to understand? can t u express ur point of view without trying to bellitle others?
or how u think is the Right way of thinking?
also in 3 years u have 4 times more posts them me... and i ve 7 years as a member listed on this site. ofc this shows nothing, but just to point out how meaningless ur insult is.
i get that most people, including myself don t like to refer to trading as gambling simply for the amount of work and screen time an nervs and failures u put in, but trading or speculation is a gamble cos there s no certainty. and nothing in this life is 100%, that was sorta the point.
anyways, stop taking things so personally dude. cheers
  • #16,172
  • May 29, 2023 4:16pm May 29, 2023 4:16pm
Quoting 1odi
can t u express ur point of view without trying to bellitle others? ... stop taking things so personally dude.
-Sigh. Read everything that has been said before responding. I have only responded to the comments that were made towards or about me.

Quoting 1odi
i get that most people, including myself don t like to refer to trading as gambling
-Trading is gambling, for many people. I do not take issue with that. People have their own opinions about that; I do not care. But saying that everything else in life is also gambling because everything carries risk or could have an uncertain outcome is just stupid.

Quoting 1odi
anything holds risk in life>therefore is a Gamble. why is that so tough to understand?
-If you want to say that you are taking a gamble as a way to say that you are taking a risk, fine. But to say that it is gambling is not accurate. There is a clear difference, and even the laws that you abide by would agree. Why is that so tough to understand?
  • #16,173
  • May 29, 2023 4:19pm May 29, 2023 4:19pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} anything holds risk in life>therefore is a Gamble. why is that so tough to understand?
  • #16,174
  • May 29, 2023 4:26pm May 29, 2023 4:26pm
Quoting gatorinla
"gambling, the betting or staking of something of value
Trading is not gambling. Learn about fundamental analysis and tehnical analysis.
  • #16,175
  • May 29, 2023 4:35pm May 29, 2023 4:35pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Sigh. Read everything that has been said before responding. I have only responded to the comments that were made towards or about me. {quote}-Trading is gambling, for many people. I do not take issue with that. People have their own opinions about that; I do not care. But saying that everything else in life is also gambling because everything carries risk or could have an uncertain outcome is just stupid. {quote}-If you want to say that you are taking a gamble as a way to say that you are taking a risk, fine. But to say that it is gambling...
+People have their own opinions about that; I do not care+ listen, i ain t gonna engage in this pissin contest with u, u do not care, others don t give a rats arse also. pardon my french, that s actually an offence to rats arses...i did read all that was said about this before, just fyi. here u go assuming i just wrote that post cos i ve got nothing better to do. ( now why would u do that, unless...u got nothing better to do), i look at this thread regularly cos i trade with props, but i rarely post. i did now cos u ve expressed ur RIGHTOUSS opinion in a way that bothered me even tho it wasn t directed at me. i thought i adressed the issue in a civilised manner so u shuldn t take offence. anyways, again, ur taking everything literally, and somehow try to make it about u. his first post was in response to cryptosurf, had nothing to do with u. but somehow ur in every conversation, every topic...there s nothing going on here without u. now, i don t mean to offend u, and my apologies beforehand if i did. i m gonna leave it at that.
BTW, feel free to ignore me, that way i can t see ur posts anymore. cheers
  • #16,176
  • May 29, 2023 4:36pm May 29, 2023 4:36pm
Quoting Tim_isoara
{quote} Trading is not gambling. Learn about fundamental analysis and tehnical analysis.
  • #16,177
  • May 29, 2023 4:37pm May 29, 2023 4:37pm
Quoting Tim_isoara
{quote} Trading is not gambling. Learn about fundamental analysis and tehnical analysis.
my point was another but i get ur point of view. cheers
  • #16,178
  • May 29, 2023 4:44pm May 29, 2023 4:44pm
Quoting 1odi
i ain t gonna engage in this pissin contest with u, u do not care, others don t give a rats arse also.
-I do not care that some people refer to trading as gambling and some do not, nor do I care about their reasoning for trying to convince others of what they are doing is morally right or wrong etc.. That is their own prerogative.

Quoting 1odi
i did read all that was said about this before, just fyi. here u go assuming i just wrote that post cos i ve got nothing better to do.
-No, I assumed that you didn't read all of the previous comments because your response to me was indicative of that.

Quoting 1odi
i rarely post. i did now cos u ve expressed ur RIGHTOUSS opinion in a way that bothered me even tho it wasn t directed at me.
-I only said what I said because I kept getting poked to respond. When those pokes started to attack me personally (albeit disguised, but obviously directed towards me), did I respond in kind.

Quoting 1odi
i thought i adressed the issue in a civilised manner so u shuldn t take offence.
-I am not offended. I may be a bit annoyed, but not offended.

Quoting 1odi
anyways, again, ur taking everything literally, and somehow try to make it about u. his first post was in response to cryptosurf, had nothing to do with u. but somehow ur in every conversation, every topic...there s nothing going on here without u.
-This is a public thread. I am an active participant in this public thread.

Quoting 1odi
BTW, feel free to ignore me, that way i can t see ur posts anymore. cheers
-Why would I ignore you? You may have an issue with me. I do not have an issue with you.
  • #16,179
  • May 29, 2023 4:47pm May 29, 2023 4:47pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-I do not care that some people refer to trading as gambling and some do not, nor do I care about their reasoning for trying to convince others of what they are doing is morally right or wrong etc.. That is their own prerogative. {quote}-No, I assumed that you didn't read all of the previous comments because your response to me was indicative of that. {quote}-I only said what I said because I kept getting poked to respond. When those pokes started to attack me personally (albeit disguised, but obviously directed towards me), did I respond...
i have no issues with u or any1 here. it was just that post that i had an issue with. cool. cheers
  • #16,180
  • Edited 5:29pm May 29, 2023 4:54pm | Edited 5:29pm
Quoting Tim_isoara
Trading is not gambling. Learn about fundamental analysis and tehnical analysis.
-Agreed. I think, most failed and inexperienced traders are probably just gambling. But if you know your odds (or win-rate) and you can consistently and repeatedly reproduce the same, successful results, then you are no longer gambling, you are working a statistically-proven system.
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