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  • #121
  • Oct 23, 2022 9:10pm Oct 23, 2022 9:10pm
I find it quite difficult to use Asc and Mid, because if you change only 1 2h, the angle will change a lot. That makes finding aspects uncertain. You can see that setting to use Daylight saving time or not also gives very different Asc and Mid positions. That's only 1 hour difference
  • #122
  • Edited 3:24am Oct 24, 2022 3:05am | Edited 3:24am
Quoting Aspire
Candle confusion EmmK - Yes the candles will be the same or very similar depending on data feed. We have all seen a 100 pip NFP news candle. (The non-farm payrolls are usually released at 1.30pm (UK time), or 8.30am (EST) on the first Friday of every month)(EST = New York) We can all easily point to it on our charts. If we are asked to give the start time of the 15min NFP candle, THAT is when the confusion starts, IF we use the time shown at the bottom of our charts. A trader based in London using MT4 sofware can give the answer 15:30 and be technically...
So the 14th or 15th hourly candlestick news comes out for NFP...Everyone agreed??
Currency first trade dates and other commodities, I haven't had luck finding good accurate ones however I am still looking especially for cotton , soybeans and just all the commodities W D Gann traded...Here is a link that can help.
http://www.bonniehill.net/pages/astroecon.html#natal
  • #123
  • Oct 24, 2022 3:16am Oct 24, 2022 3:16am
Quoting ndhuy
AGAIN, FOR GOLD Directional Places : House 10, 26 Aqu 10 Mercury SQUARE with Node, it shoud be SELL but UP day again I test random some day and get like 50-50 results {image} {image} {image}
It's good you get it. In the videos I make mention of the fact that a sell or buy day does not mean the market will close bearish or bullish. A buy or sell day means for the buy (there is a key unbreathable low price which you need find with that time aspect you have noted). And for the sell (there is a key unbreakable high price which you need find with that time aspect you have noted).
Intraday astro trading is that simple, unless you want to use astrology to trade every minute or hour of the day, possible.
  • #124
  • Oct 24, 2022 4:16am Oct 24, 2022 4:16am
Quoting HoTuanViet
I find it quite difficult to use Asc and Mid, because if you change only 1 2h, the angle will change a lot. That makes finding aspects uncertain. You can see that setting to use Daylight saving time or not also gives very different Asc and Mid positions. That's only 1 hour difference
When drawing up the radix or natal chart remember to only put the month, day, year and time and move to the location, look it up and apply, and automatically astrolog will put the daylight saving correctly.
  • #125
  • Oct 24, 2022 6:42am Oct 24, 2022 6:42am
Quoting EmmK
{quote} You are correct...Just on small detail...The Sun is the giver of power to rule in any instrument...and that it was at that position it gave Saturn this year to rule Gold market, hence, it being on that position is like renewing that arrangement and so, if you look at Saturn aspects, Just on top of your aspect, Saturn had a trine with the ASC and that was negative orbit...the rest of the Saturn aspects were positive orbit and so..Saturn trine ASC was going to cause the buy....This is also a good example to the rule regarding aspects with...
Hi Emma, this is an interesting point. So when progressed sun transits radical sun , it reinforces the prime significator for that year so it is aspects tp PS you look to for market direction.

Thanks a million bro.
  • #126
  • Oct 24, 2022 6:56am Oct 24, 2022 6:56am
Quoting frog-eater
In the pdf you shared we can read the following: "The New York Chart is set for noon on the 17th of May, 1792 as shown in the map herewith. Now at the tragic assassination of President Abraham Lincoln we find the years from the above date of founding to the date of that event, APRIL 14TH, 1865, to be a period of 73 YEARS ONE MONTH. This at the rate of 59' 8" per day (year) is 72 degrees 2 minutes" I have two questions: 1) why does the author progress the planets up to the day of the forecast while you progress them on the birthday ? 2) why does...

I am sure Emma will get to this but to your 2nd question, what i have found is that the author makes a number of mistakes (intentionally or therwise i dont know). but the point is the same- You progress the chart to the year you want to forecast.

WHich brings me to your first question. The author and Emma have both progressed the chart to the year they want to forecast. Gold's first trade date was on 31 December 1974, we want to know how life would be for gold this year so we progress the chart to 31 december 2022. In 2023, guess which year we would use? 31 december 2023 and so on.

i hope this helps
  • #127
  • Oct 24, 2022 6:59am Oct 24, 2022 6:59am
Quoting EmmK
{quote} So the 14th or 15th hourly candlestick news comes out for NFP...Everyone agreed?? Currency first trade dates and other commodities, I haven't had luck finding good accurate ones however I am still looking especially for cotton , soybeans and just all the commodities W D Gann traded...Here is a link that can help. http://www.bonniehill.net/pages/astroecon.html#natal
Regarding first trade date for other commodities. i found this site https://www.cmegroup.com/media-room/...es.html#metals

do you think this is accurate? it is for gold
  • #128
  • Oct 24, 2022 7:14am Oct 24, 2022 7:14am
Quoting frog-eater
{quote} Also just so you know, the clock is not the same in every country of the world. So if you forecast a specific time using astrolog with new york settings, let's say you forecasted a low at 12pm new york time, then if you buy at the 12pm candlestick in africa it won't work. This is really basic.
I feel he was refering to the equivalent time here. I have read a few of your comments and to be fair, there really is no need for unkind insinuations to someone who is taking his time (his most valuable asset) to teach what he knows and understands. He need not justify his process to anyone, it is left to you to do that for yourself. If you feel you are an authority in this subject matter, then teach. Simpliciter. I look forward to learning from your thread. Thank you
  • #129
  • Oct 24, 2022 7:55am Oct 24, 2022 7:55am
Quoting Forensic
{quote} Hi Emma, this is an interesting point. So when progressed sun transits radical sun , it reinforces the prime significator for that year so it is aspects tp PS you look to for market direction. Thanks a million bro.
If the Prime significator for that year and the radix are the same and in operation in the year of transit, yes!
  • #130
  • Oct 24, 2022 8:04am Oct 24, 2022 8:04am
Quoting Forensic
{quote} I am sure Emma will get to this but to your 2nd question, what i have found is that the author makes a number of mistakes (intentionally or therwise i dont know). but the point is the same- You progress the chart to the year you want to forecast. WHich brings me to your first question. The author and Emma have both progressed the chart to the year they want to forecast. Gold's first trade date was on 31 December 1974, we want to know how life would be for gold this year so we progress the chart to 31 december 2022. In 2023, guess which year...
I think it was intentional. In the Science of Foreknowledge Sepharial on the THE RADIX SYSTEM he did a progression and he did it as I am doing it and as you are pointing out. The 5 degrees 59 minutes orbit allowance is left out in the Arcana or stock and share key, but he mentions it dimly in other works. So yeah. There are so many things he may have not stated but if you read his books more than 3 times you will get it.
  • #131
  • Oct 24, 2022 8:11am Oct 24, 2022 8:11am
Quoting Forensic
{quote} Regarding first trade date for other commodities. i found this site https://www.cmegroup.com/media-room/...es.html#metals do you think this is accurate? it is for gold
Yes the Gold first trade date is the futures and yes it is correct...Will look at them and try to verify the other ones. Thank you!

Oh and by verifying, one needs to do the process we have covered so far in the videos. But instead of looking at transits of other planets...the transits of the moon are best, I mean the price obeys the transit immediately, and so if it does move in the direction of the transit...well it may not be the correct date. At least several transits should clear that.
  • #132
  • Oct 24, 2022 8:26am Oct 24, 2022 8:26am
Quoting EmmK
{quote} There is only one mistake I have made...it is concerning the progression of the gold chart using astrolog 7.5 software, a setting I did not highlight...I will make a short video on that.
Foundation 1.4 Forgotten Astrolog Setting & Correct Progression

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  • #133
  • Oct 24, 2022 1:37pm Oct 24, 2022 1:37pm
You mentioned that from the Radix Chart from Gold, the leading planet was Saturn, and if we project this to 31.12.2022 it will be Saturn again.
But wouldn't that make Saturn the primary planet for 2023 and not 2022, because December 31st is still in the future and this would be the date when the planet gets its power?

So wouldn't we have to look at December 31st 2021 to get the right data for 2022?
  • #134
  • Oct 24, 2022 4:06pm Oct 24, 2022 4:06pm
@ EmmK, what happens when the FM falls on a weekend? would the effect spill over to the weekday? on oct 9, FM fell on a sunday. Would effect start on monday?
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  • #135
  • Oct 24, 2022 4:19pm Oct 24, 2022 4:19pm
FM in Aug started on the 11th - 12 Aqu 10 and ended on the 12th- 26Aqu31. This fell outside the progressed positions of the sun and MC of 27Aqu38 and 27Aqu52 respectively. so this isn't valid. is that correct?
  • #136
  • Edited 4:32pm Oct 24, 2022 4:22pm | Edited 4:32pm
tomorrow is a new moon and also a partial solar eclipse. It falls between 24 Libra 46 and 9 Scorpio 04. This is outsie the scope of both radix and progressed positions. Do you think elipse would affect markets still?
  • #137
  • Oct 24, 2022 4:23pm Oct 24, 2022 4:23pm
Quoting Forensic
@ EmmK, what happens when the FM falls on a weekend? would the effect spill over to the weekday? on oct 9, FM fell on a sunday. Would effect start on monday? {image}
Alas for transits and daily fluctuations influences only affect that day...so they have no effect on other days hence they can't be used to judge the influence of another day.
The only ones that go beyond are long term influences like secondary progression. These if they fall on weekends, on Monday or in the next week the effect will be felt. If it was not felt the Friday before the weekend.
  • #138
  • Oct 24, 2022 4:26pm Oct 24, 2022 4:26pm
Quoting Forensic
FM in Aug started on the 11th - 12 Aqu 10 and ended on the 12th- 26Aqu31. This fell outside the progressed positions of the sun and MC of 27Aqu38 and 27Aqu52 respectively. so this isn't valid. is that correct?
Correct.
  • #139
  • Oct 24, 2022 4:29pm Oct 24, 2022 4:29pm
Quoting Forensic
tomorrow is a new moon and also a partial solar eclipse. how would the eclipse affect things?
Good question. Give me some couple of hours to make a video about eclipses and check it out, will be right back.
  • #140
  • Oct 25, 2022 5:34am Oct 25, 2022 5:34am
Quoting Forensic
tomorrow is a new moon and also a partial solar eclipse. It falls between 24 Libra 46 and 9 Scorpio 04. This is outsie the scope of both radix and progressed positions. Do you think elipse would affect markets still?
Eclipses are nothing rather than a Full moon (conjection with one of its nodes) opposite sun, for Lunar eclipse..

For solar eclipse New moon (conjection with one of its nodes) conjection sun...

May observation only show that if the Moon has a transit it should affect the market according to its aspects, more so when the aspect is bad (sells) as the eclipses are conjection and opposite aspected (bad aspect)...

And since nodes are involved the price movement may be more to the direction of the aspect of the moon transit.

So to answer your question...it may just cause a small sell for some hours few hours...but since the New moon did not make any transit...there is no trade hear...so daily fluctuations or yearly secondary progression swings influences may be behind the moves today.

The video will give detailed examples of eclipses from the July 5 2001, to the one in Jan 4 2011, to May 16 2022, and Oct 24 2022...these should be enough examples for the eclipse influence.

However, we are still in a sell trend in Gold or XAU/USD.
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