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  • #1,241
  • Edited 11:05pm May 3, 2022 10:00pm | Edited 11:05pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} As an IB would the Commercial section be the place to be? Question for you Viktory!
Well, he isn't advertising himself as an IB, nor suggesting it, neither convincing people to trade in any specific place; there are not referral links. NADA.

As far as I know, he has only talked about his experience regarding a few decent crypto brokers/exchanges (some of the biggest for derivatives, that anyone interested in that market should know about). That's called "advice", and everyone in this forum discuss about many brokers of any kind, outside commercial sections.

EDIT: I changed the first word "everyone" for "anyone", cause I have OCD=
  • #1,242
  • May 3, 2022 10:04pm May 3, 2022 10:04pm
Quoting Viktory
{quote} Well, he isn't advertising himself as an IB, nor suggesting it, neither convincing people to trade in any specific place; there are not referral links. NADA. As far as I know, he has only talked about his experience regarding a few decent crypto brokers/exchanges (some of the biggest for derivatives, that everyone interested in that market should know about). That's called "advice", and everyone in this forum discuss about many brokers of any kind, outside commercial sections.
Yep, I don't think there is anything showing on FF, give you that.

Commercial Code of Conduct
Any Member who makes money by providing a product or service to traders should be designated a Commercial Member. Commercial Members are allowed to promote products and services in the Commercial Content forum, as long as they abide by the following code of conduct. Generally, Commercial Members should be upfront, professional, and not be sneaky.

Would that include an IB, I think yes, perhaps you think no?
  • #1,243
  • Edited 11:09pm May 3, 2022 10:15pm | Edited 11:09pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Yep, I don't think there is anything showing on FF, give you that. Commercial Code of Conduct Any Member who makes money by providing a product or service to traders should be designated a Commercial Member. Commercial Members are allowed to promote products and services in the Commercial Content forum, as long as they abide by the following code of conduct. Generally, Commercial Members should be upfront, professional, and not be sneaky. Would that include an IB, I think yes, perhaps you think no?
Ryu isn't providing/promoting products or services in exchange for money; he's just sharing some of his personal tools with a small group of friends outside here.
And please explain to me, why are you saying that nonsense about an IB from his part?

What's your problem with him? And now also Rick it seems? Someone that you used to admire and respect...

EDIT: Friends that have HELPED him to become a better trader and coder, so it involves mutual/bilateral win-win benefit.
  • #1,244
  • May 3, 2022 10:17pm May 3, 2022 10:17pm
Quoting moodybot
100% win rate based on clever programming and only available through a private channel. Massive gains through an incredible system. Then the data was found to be false. Let that sink in.
Also, most of what you and others think and say about data/volume is so ridiculous, that you should seriously be ashamed as "traders". The ignorance of some regarding such an important topic, and more-so, the unwillingness to research and study a little (at least to rationally opine-debate), really boggles my mind.

Please understand that not everything in trading is Forex/CFDs! There's a WHOLE (and in many cases better) world outside it, if you simply learn where to look...

Btw, I don't know exactly how he trades nowadays, but yeah, if the method isn't using SL and "averages down" (or something similar), then 100% win-rate is possible in bursts for short periods of time, when the market conditions are suitable and the execution is tight enough. I only wonder what level of risk he's taking to achieve it, and how sustainable it may be.
  • #1,245
  • May 3, 2022 10:23pm May 3, 2022 10:23pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} {image}
This was the post placed onto my thread that pissed me off.

So you know.
  • #1,246
  • May 3, 2022 10:30pm May 3, 2022 10:30pm
Viktory

In case you missed this, I know most people would head straight over to the IB post.


100% win rate based on clever programming and only available through a private channel.
Massive gains through an incredible system.
Then the data was found to be false.
Let that sink in.
  • #1,247
  • May 3, 2022 10:40pm May 3, 2022 10:40pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} This was the post placed onto my thread that pissed me off. So you know.
Ok. Yes, I admit that he was "rude" (although no need for subsequent nicknames) and impertinent to some here in a few instances, but maaan, you really took it as an endless personal crazy vendetta, escalating it beyond any sane reason; constantly disqualifying everything he writes & contributes, even outside the context... and hey, before "the conflict", actually very few members took him seriously at all, which was also offensive in the first place.
  • #1,248
  • May 3, 2022 10:46pm May 3, 2022 10:46pm
Quoting moodybot
Viktory In case you missed this, I know most people would head straight over to the IB post. 100% win rate based on clever programming and only available through a private channel. Massive gains through an incredible system. Then the data was found to be false. Let that sink in.
Moody: I won't repeat again it as you do, because I replied to this in the post #1,244. And also Ryu and Rick already clarified it before.

* And yes, in fact I know what they are talking about, because I have also worked with Stocks, Futures and Options volume data in the past. For example, I can assure you that the CME is legit, but massive "aggregators" like Trading View (more like a social-network charting/trading sharing platform) are often wrong/incomplete.

Gee! It seems you really love conspiracy theories...
  • #1,249
  • May 3, 2022 10:57pm May 3, 2022 10:57pm
Quoting mixedbags
{image} Didn't get 100% win rate but good enough for 2 days trading. Only stupid people trade forex without delta without volume. None will make it. Be smart trade SHITcoin with delta and ton of other home baked indicators.
Congratulations on your triumph! Just be careful not to get overconfident, as we all know that 2 days is too short of a "sample". Maybe you could brag after at least around ~6 months of consistent success
  • #1,250
  • May 3, 2022 11:16pm May 3, 2022 11:16pm
Viktory

We just have to wait for Rudy to deny having an IB interest.
It's a simple question mate.
He only has to deny it, then I can move onto why he falsely accused me of infiltrating his group.
But lets keep this simple, the IB question first.
  • #1,251
  • May 3, 2022 11:46pm May 3, 2022 11:46pm
Quoting Viktory
{quote} Also, most of what you and others think and say about data/volume is so ridiculous, that you should seriously be ashamed as "traders". The ignorance of some regarding such an important topic, and more-so, the unwillingness to research and study a little (at least to rationally opine-debate), really boggles my mind. Please understand that not everything in trading is Forex/CFDs! There's a WHOLE (and in many cases better) world outside it, if you simply learn where to look... Btw, I don't know exactly how he trades nowadays, but yeah, if the...

Your completely missing the point of what Moodybot is pointing out.. Your too wrapped up in trying to prove the importance of volume...He not referring to conspiracy theories... Volume has its place for many traders but it is far from being necessary in any market. I used to trade Nas stocks back in late 90s and started using DOM LvII in 2000 or so. and before that i was quite keen on the futures markets basing all trades off Volume and Open Int. ( but found it was not necessary for me)

This kid acts like he knows all and his shit doesn't stink when its quite clear he has a vast amount to learn firstly starting with his shit attitude (whch everyone sees or dismisses as they think they might GET something from him )

Now back to my point that your completely missing with that 747 rumbling over your head.

What Moodybot is referring to with the 100% WR massive gains and fake data....let that sink in.... what you are missing is this Viktory
You are missing the point of 100% WR massive gains with fake or real data all the while claiming how Delta is like the Holy Grail..

Can you see it ???

Lets make this abundantly clear... If the Volume data is fake or real regardless of where it comes from..You are achieving a 99-100% WR and massive gains as he likes to point out repeatedly... WHO CARES IF THE VOLUME DATA IS FAKE/REAL/IMPERFECT IF YOUR GETTING 99-100% WR and DOUBLE DIGIT GAINS many days... WHO THE FRICK CARES IF THE VOLUME IS SHIT !!! WHY WOULD IT MATTER IF YOUR SLAYING THE MARKET DAILY AS HE SAYS ??? THE VOLUME DOES NOT MATTER AT ALL. LOL...

Do you understand now ?

FAKE VOLUME=99-100%WR AND DAILY MASSIVE GAINS
REAL VOLUME=99-100% WR AND DAILY MASSIVE GAINS
MT4 VOLUME=99-100% WR AND DAILY MASSIVE GAINS..... just look at the first dozen pages or so... 25-30% days with 100% WR
5 MA's 6 MA's 8ema 6 ema 5 ema Stochastics RSI blah blah blah
+30%FOREX today
+5% CRYPTO today
yep the real CME volume is now making a big difference... Crypto now is making a big difference... but before it was Gold etc etc all doing the same returns as hes spouting now.

Can you see it...the inconsistencies are laughable..No one is saying that Volume is useless.. ITS he keeps on switching and changing but the results are always the same..99-100% huge daily returns all from the very fist page of his thread... So really the volume rant is MOOT.

Now personally IMO all of this 100% WR bullshit comes down to Ryuryu trying to control outcome ..that is human nature as we are wired for that.. But that is a death kiss to a trading career..and he will learn the hard way it appears.

Outcome is out of our control.. Trading is a High performance business... we can only control our Execution our Entry and Exit.. Our Risk and our Emotions. Outcome is for the market to decide. Aiming for 100% WR is a fools game that will crash and Burn always.

Good Luck ryuryu and remember the math really doesnt matter all that much the real edge in trading is you..the edge is psychological not mathematical.

Cheers
Blue
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #1,252
  • Edited 1:23am May 4, 2022 12:46am | Edited 1:23am
Quoting Viktory
{quote} Congratulations on your triumph! Just be careful not to get overconfident, as we all know that 2 days is too short of a "sample". Maybe you could brag after at least around ~6 months of consistent success
Worth asking him about the other completed accounts. He may be up to the max now, think 6 was the most he could have
  • #1,253
  • Edited 5:57am May 4, 2022 5:46am | Edited 5:57am
Quoting bluesteele
Good Luck ryuryu and remember the math really doesnt matter all that much the real edge in trading is you..the edge is psychological not mathematical. Cheers Blue
What a bullshit haha
But you are absolutely right! Math is nothing. All you need is strong believe in magic and your favorite drawing tools. I know I know.
Who cares about math? Line here, line there, rectangle here, triangle here. And don't forget to speak with a very serious poker face something like "my advice to you...", "all you have is..." and "you have to learn...".



If to be serious. You claim you are a smart ass and even analyzed my trading. Then you must understand that I'm trading with cd for mt5 on forex and with bots with direct API access on crypto. So found tradingview issue can't affect it. It affect only indicators for tradingview but their purpose only to test ideas and logic. No one trading using them.

But again - who cares. Yes? Better open mouth to say some nonsense with veeery serious face.
Observer effect
  • #1,254
  • May 4, 2022 6:30am May 4, 2022 6:30am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote}
What a bullshit haha
But you are absolutely right!
Math is nothing.
All you need is strong believe in magic and your favorite drawing tools.


Hahaaa, ryuryu you are such a funny guy (with a limited range of certain overused words ).


In your ever perpetual blindness you have (again) failed to see that Kev was probably paying you a compliment (in a way, well imo).


You ryuryu have run around many threads on Forex Factory, with your personal nonsense,
suggesting to any poor soul finding themselves in current trading trouble,
and who might take their time listening to your myopic ramblings, that

The ONLY WAY to win at market trading, according to you ryuryu,
you say the only way
is to have the maths -
you know the stuff you write everywhere ….

ie 2 + 2 =4


And from that one piece of completely blindfolded simplicity, it would be very plain to many traders
that what you are really saying, repeatedly, is

That YOU ryuryu
cannot win at trading any other way other than using maths and data ALONE.

Which is a fair enough admission, and nothing wrong with that.


But then, while you were also winning
(ie and this is Kevs compliment, as I see it)

YOU WERE USING WHAT YOU FINALLY ADMITTED WAS …

FAKE DATA

(ie the 2 wasn’t really a 2, therefore the answer couldn’t be 4 - from your own words re the fake data)


So I ask, who is the one really using MAGIC lol?

I reckon someone who is winning, and who is using FAKE data (your words),
well that’s gotta be the epitome of M A G I C lol.

Or

as Kev might have suggested imho,
you probably CAN trade
and therefore the DATA you glorify is
NOT absolutely NECESSARY,
ie it is just another trading crutch


Now, from what I read and am led to believe from certain posts on FF is that RickM originally and graciously showed you months ago,
“Where to trade and how to trade”

And you have extended your trading further now with your indis, and well done sir.

But that just AINT the Holy Grail lol. That ain’t the ONLY way to trade markets successfully.
And therefore you should probably not imho be misleading other traders into your own limited way of thinking about markets.


You have a flourishing Journal somewhere to update,
with real data this time,
now is probably the time.
  • #1,255
  • May 4, 2022 7:11am May 4, 2022 7:11am
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Hahaaa, ryuryu you are such a funny guy (with a limited range of certain overused words ). In your ever perpetual blindness you have (again) failed to see that Kev was probably paying you a compliment (in a way, well imo). You ryuryu have run around many threads on Forex Factory, with your personal nonsense, suggesting to any poor soul finding themselves in current trading trouble, and who might take their time listening to your myopic ramblings, that The ONLY WAY to win at market trading, according to you ryuryu, you say the only...
One more time. How the world fake tradingview data can affect clusterdelta +mt5 or bots with direct API access trading? Tradingview is to test and code ideas fast, because it has very simple language and immediate visual results. It is sample data
I just found that even their paid subscription is not equal to real.

Looks like you guys are trying to talk about things you don't know and don't even understand.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
Observer effect
  • #1,256
  • May 4, 2022 7:23am May 4, 2022 7:23am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote}
Tradingview is to test ideas fast, because it has very simple language and immediate visual results.
Stop embarrassing yourself.

ryuryu please, stop digging your hole even deeper

Mate please go back to your trading and your Journal, you are stepping in deep water.

Its one thing thing to write today that you only use tradingview to TEST ideas and dont trade on t.v.

But less than six weeks ago you were telling traders on here looking for hope in these tricky markets another story.

Quoting ryuryu
A lot of people asking me to share my custom indicators with them.
Guys and girls.
I'm not a greedy person, but to share it with you I have to pay 720$/year for premium subscription on tradingview.

Why would you offer to share your tradingview indicators with folks
when you don't even use them yourself for trading on tradingview.
You only test them on tradingview I now read today, not trade the indis yourself.


Some people are really hurting a long time in these markets ryu,
to give them false hope of an indicator that will work when trading on tradingview,
and ask for a crowdfundme to allow you to then share these tradingview indis with the people
and you NOW say you dont even trade with them on tradingview yourself, is not fair

or am I missing something here, sorry ?

all the best
Pete
  • #1,257
  • May 4, 2022 7:37am May 4, 2022 7:37am
Quoting TimeTells
or am I missing something here, sorry ?
But it is impossible to trade crypto or even forex using tradingview... Even if their data was good, even if you broker listed on tradingview thnen if you switch the chart back to your broker u will have fake tick data back.

If you fully understand (but you not) how it works then you will see that the key here is 360 degrees opposite: you can take data from trusted source but trade with your favorite broker/exchange.

That's why before start blaming me in all sins first study the topic you are trying to argue in.

Last but not least. You said I asked for crowdfound for tradingview indis. That is not true again. I asked it to create custom charts because I have found that tradingview has wrong data.

You guys made that mistake at least twice already. You remove some words from what I said and start blaming me. Buy it it too easy to find the source and compare.
Observer effect
  • #1,258
  • May 4, 2022 8:00am May 4, 2022 8:00am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote}
It is impossible to trade crypto or even forex using tradingview...
Even if their data was good, even if you broker listed on tradingview thnen if you switch the chart back to your broker u will have fake tick data back.
If you fully understand (but you not) how it works then you will see that the key here is 360 degrees opposite: you can take data from trusted source but trade with your favorite broker/exchange.
That's why before street blaming me first study the topic you are trying to argue in.

Ryuryu, I am not blaming you,
I am just trying to understand just what the heck you have got yourself into trading this way lol

ie
1. cant use tradingview for trading
2. fake tick data


Goodness me.

Do you now wonder why I am happy lol to be trading just straight horizontal swing Target Lines, that the market must go back to, time after time.

I'm off to bed now, day is done,
+0.95% a/c today, one pair only GBPJPY,
less opportunity today of course with the Yen Holiday, but very little stress.
Tomorrow is USD rate decision, Thursday, could be some currency carnage for the unwary.
AND profit for the patient.

Trade safe folks whatever method you use (and watch out for the fake paid-for data always ).
  • #1,259
  • May 4, 2022 8:25am May 4, 2022 8:25am
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Ryuryu, I am not blaming you, I am just trying to understand just what the heck you have got yourself into trading this way lol ie 1. cant use tradingview for trading 2. fake tick data Goodness me. Do you now wonder why I am happy lol to be trading just straight horizontal swing Target Lines, that the market must go back to, time after time. I'm off to bed now, day is done, +0.95% a/c today, one pair only GBPJPY, less opportunity today of course with the Yen Holiday, but very little stress. Tomorrow is USD rate...
Finally you got it

Tradingview is advanced charting platform. Also it is, let's say, advanced strategy tester. Like one you have on your mt4/5.
So you can easy code your idea fast and get visual results immediately. It is like "lite python script in loop".
But is is not possible to trade using it directly with the approach we have. Of course you can do it that way: open one window with tv, and second with... with mt5? With motivewave? But what for if you have everything inside you mt4 or MW or quantower.... or whatever. That is very strange. Tradingview is to test ideas and then if you happy with what you got you can code it in python or js for your bot. Or with mql for mt4/5. That how it works.

BTW I said that about 90% "entries" are the same. But please do not use 90% I said. Literally. I have no stats. Never collected it. So it can be 95%, or 92%. But I said many times that I love math, and that's why I'm happy when data us 100% correct. For example since tradingview taking volume data from ohcl the delta (and volume) are always equal to candle color! Imagine that! how it can be possible? Delta can be zero. It can be positive, negative and there is no corellation with candle color. But tv is always same size and color and never zero. That was first "ring".

In fact I found it very interesting. So if one day you will see that you are ready to go with it I can guide you.

Stay green!
Observer effect
  • #1,260
  • May 4, 2022 4:34pm May 4, 2022 4:34pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} But it is impossible to trade crypto or even forex using tradingview... Even if their data was good, even if you broker listed on tradingview thnen if you switch the chart back to your broker u will have fake tick data back. If you fully understand (but you not) how it works then you will see that the key here is 360 degrees opposite: you can take data from trusted source but trade with your favorite broker/exchange. That's why before start blaming me in all sins first study the topic you are trying to argue in. Last but not least. You said...

Stop twisting everything around.

You asked for crowd funding…
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