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Is Tether fully backed? What would failure mean for exchanges

  • Opened Oct 5, 2021 | Never Closes | 9 Votes
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Is Tether fully backed?  
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  • First Post: Oct 5, 2021 3:30pm Oct 5, 2021 3:30pm
  •  yieldjunkie
  • Joined Dec 2020 | Status: Member | 272 Posts
I'd like to know what the community thinks of Tether. Do you think it's fully backed? I'd hate to see a major failure in the crypto space, but if regulatory headwinds or some systematic failure affected Tether, how bad could things get for crypto exchanges and major coins? The outstanding USDT supply is turned over at least once a day in volume.

Tether operates a fee structure which with enough daily volume seems reasonable to generate cash to provide the backing, but the undisclosed time-lag between "issuing" USDT and purchasing the backing seems like it leaves enough room for market manipulation via intraday crypto positions funded by USDT.

The only financial statements that I can find is their daily transparency page which is clearly unaudited. According to their FAQ, USDT cannot be redeemed for USD. The rest of their FAQ seems shallow and like it solely exists to convince you that they are fully backed. Here's their third party attestation (not a full audit) from February.
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  • Oct 5, 2021 3:46pm Oct 5, 2021 3:46pm
  •  Not-KPMG
  • Joined Jun 2015 | Status: Member | 14,961 Posts
Are you kidding????



Everyone who even starts to think Tether trash is fully backed....



Should enter some mental institution for examination




It speaks volume when their own auditor (super highly paid) kicks away the Tether bribes and says "Fock it I'm not touching this scam".




PAX, TUSD for example is OK.
Beware of robber banks (RB), bad advisors.
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  •  yieldjunkie
  • Joined Dec 2020 | Status: Member | 272 Posts
Quoting Not-KPMG
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Are you kidding???? Everyone who even starts to think Tether trash is fully backed.... Should enter some mental institution for examination It speaks volume when their own auditor (super highly paid) kicks away the Tether bribes and says "Fock it I'm not touching this scam". ...
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All this talk... but no vote

So you think Tether is a scam - if the scam unravels, what do you think the implications are for the rest of the crypto space?
 
 
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  •  Hasher
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Fully backed?
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  •  TwoSense
  • Joined Jul 2019 | Status: The future is bright, with crypto | 144 Posts
It's only a matter of time before this house of cards comes down.

Tether isn't going to be able to prove its backed. They've gotten some shady offshore transfers and still were only able to get it up to around 74% backed. But even then, that was a report published by Tether, not a legit outside auditor.
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Much remains murky, however, in part because the pie charts provided by Tether on Thursday make no mention of any independent review by an accounting firm. Moore Cayman, an audit firm in the Caribbean with five employees, has published two reports this year attesting that USDT is fully backed. But the auditor (part of the Moore Global confederation of accounting and consulting firms) did not detail what exactly is backing the token.

source: https://www.coindesk.com/markets/202...mercial-paper/
 
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  • Oct 15, 2021 11:33am Oct 15, 2021 11:33am
  •  TwoSense
  • Joined Jul 2019 | Status: The future is bright, with crypto | 144 Posts
Here we go! CFTC fines Tether and Bitfinex $42.5 million over USDT backing

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The CFTC's announcement said Tether made "untrue or misleading statements and omission of material fact" related to its stablecoin, USDT. Tether falsely claimed that USDT was fully backed by U.S. dollars, according to the CFTC. The order requires the firm to pay a penalty of $41 million.
 
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  • Oct 15, 2021 2:35pm Oct 15, 2021 2:35pm
  •  Goat
  • Joined Jan 2009 | Status: FREE ROSS | 1,417 Posts
Good call.

My vote was cast after the correct answer was revealed, but I'm sure I'd have gotten it right at any time.
 
 
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  •  Goat
  • Joined Jan 2009 | Status: FREE ROSS | 1,417 Posts
Could Tether be the October buyer?
 
 
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