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  • #4,141
  • Sep 27, 2021 2:08pm Sep 27, 2021 2:08pm
Quoting JotaP
About MFF again. Actually this rule is in their website for the Evaluation Program: {image} They say one thing when approached directly by email, they mention another on their website. In case of doubts, which version will be used? I can guess.
Their discord channel is where you get the latest and greatest. That website hasn’t been updated in awhile.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #4,142
  • Sep 27, 2021 2:18pm Sep 27, 2021 2:18pm
Quoting Koop
{quote} If i may Pip, is 1-1.5% the minimum you target weekly or will you close up shop for the week once that target is met?
No, I will take what the market gives. Sometimes I hit 2.5%-3% or more. There are losing weeks also, so 1-1.5% per week is an average. The only time y time I will close up shop for the week is if I have 5%+ before Friday, I will not trade on Friday. If i hit 2% in a day, I stop as well.
  • #4,143
  • Sep 27, 2021 2:28pm Sep 27, 2021 2:28pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Their discord channel is where you get the latest and greatest. That website hasn’t been updated in awhile.
Their Faq channels are nicely done, well organized and structured. It's good when you know the selected program and only have some unclarity or specific query. However, you won't find there a simple description of the program and its rules.

Such a summary for each program is on their website. If you say it's not updated then it's too bad as I don't always search their Discord to see whether something has changed or not. I always expected the website content was what mattered
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #4,144
  • Sep 27, 2021 2:31pm Sep 27, 2021 2:31pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} No, I will take what the market gives. Sometimes I hit 2.5%-3% or more. There are losing weeks also, so 1-1.5% per week is an average. The only time y time I will close up shop for the week is if I have 5%+ before Friday, I will not trade on Friday. If i hit 2% in a day, I stop as well.
Seems to be a very reasonable money management
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #4,145
  • Sep 27, 2021 2:39pm Sep 27, 2021 2:39pm
Quoting Vitore
{quote} Seems to be a very reasonable money management
IMO, the single most important aspect of this business, hands down. Of course, being human, I sometimes trade larger than normal (especially if I have a profit buffer). Those are ALWAYS my worst weeks. I could do so much better if I stuck hard to my mm rules.
  • #4,146
  • Sep 27, 2021 2:46pm Sep 27, 2021 2:46pm
Quoting Vitore
{quote} Their Faq channels are nicely done, well organized and structured. It's good when you know the selected program and only have some unclarity or specific query. However, you won't find there a simple description of the program and its rules. Such a summary for each program is on their website. If you say it's not updated then it's too bad as I don't always search their Discord to see whether something has changed or not. I always expected the website content was what mattered
They do need to have that site kept up to date.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #4,147
  • Sep 27, 2021 2:52pm Sep 27, 2021 2:52pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} IMO, the single most important aspect of this business, hands down. Of course, being human, I sometimes trade larger than normal (especially if I have a profit buffer). Those are ALWAYS my worst weeks. I could do so much better if I stuck hard to my mm rules.
Couldn't agree more
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #4,148
  • Edited 6:04pm Sep 27, 2021 3:33pm | Edited 6:04pm
Quoting JotaP
I have only one question... Has anybody here been paid by MFF, a company without a physical address that has some interesting clauses in their terms, such as, only allows Expert Advisors after they analyze its source code ?
It is obvious you did not read this thread, if you genuinely really that is what you want to know you should go through the posts in this thread,
more traders from this thread have been paid by MFF than any other prop firm, multiple times,(including me)
Those who don't believe in magic will never find it
  • #4,149
  • Sep 27, 2021 4:00pm Sep 27, 2021 4:00pm
Quoting mcquak
{quote} I was wondering if I'm required to disclose my IP. Based on what I received from MFF it's not required when one goes with Eval. program. {image}
...... why would you even ask that?
  • #4,150
  • Sep 27, 2021 4:04pm Sep 27, 2021 4:04pm
Quoting diamond1011
{quote} At this moment, US session 27th Sep 2021, FTMO eur/usd spread 0.1-0.3 MFF Eur/usd spread 0.7-0.8, that is 350%. (180-200% is just my estimation because I have not checked all the pairs). Below is the screenshot eurusd. {image}
What you need to provide here is a spread profile across at least a whole trading session so apples can be compared to apples and not necessarily oranges.

Such MT4 indicators exist that will profile the spread of both firms and allow for a much fairer comparison.

Masterrmind ........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #4,151
  • Sep 27, 2021 4:06pm Sep 27, 2021 4:06pm
I am but a wee individual of no significant importance.. But whats with the whole "MAN FTMO IS AMAZING WHY MFF THEY HAVE THIS Rule THAT DOESNt eXIST fuck THEM" posts?

No really, what the hell is this shit?

If FTMO is your primary, pick a secondary, MFF or whoever else. If MFF is your primary, pick a secondary, FTMO or anything else. There is no reason to spout bullshit in this thread. There are other places for that.

"They use an office building with many other businesses". So does fucking Amazon, shut up. Murtuza said on the podcast that its managed by Regus, do you want them to make a 500 PC stadium for you to go with your $899 200k account and trade live with them whilst someone massages your feet and you sip pina coladas whilst getting a happy ending?

Jesus holy fucking christ the entitlement of people. You pay $899 for 200k and you expect the universe and a blowjob/quickie at the same time. FTMO's offices are trash too, they have a few staff and they are a registered education company, but I still am more than willing to give them my money and to trade with them.

Find real things to gripe about, the nonsense from 6 months ago is boring.
  • #4,152
  • Sep 27, 2021 4:08pm Sep 27, 2021 4:08pm
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} What you need to provide here is a spread profile across at least a whole trading session so apples can be compared to apples and not necessarily oranges. Such MT4 indicators exist that will profile the spread of both firms and allow for a much fairer comparison. Masterrmind ........

Yeh but that would prove that hes talking shit because MFF isn't remotely near 0.7 spread,average EVER. Hes either mistaken or just talking wet farts.
  • #4,153
  • Sep 27, 2021 7:41pm Sep 27, 2021 7:41pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Yeh but that would prove that hes talking shit because MFF isn't remotely near 0.7 spread,average EVER. Hes either mistaken or just talking wet farts.
Precisely...

Masterrmind .........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #4,154
  • Sep 27, 2021 7:55pm Sep 27, 2021 7:55pm
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} Precisely... Masterrmind .........
Really it all comes down to trading conditions and getting paid. Pretty sure the purpose of the thread is to share REAL experience (good or bad) with the various firms. The key being REAL experience. It seems as if some come here to try to simply poke holes in other companies credibility without any REAL experience with said firm. Not sure of the reason, unless ulterior motives are at play. If you are unsure of a certain rule or criteria, simply ask, there are plenty of us here using the firms and getting paid. There are plenty on here that can tell you a company is not worth joining as well, based on REAL experience.
  • #4,155
  • Sep 27, 2021 7:57pm Sep 27, 2021 7:57pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Where are you seeing that? Looks like 0.1to me {image}
Sorry, something went wrong and i was mistaken
  • #4,156
  • Sep 27, 2021 8:07pm Sep 27, 2021 8:07pm
Quoting diamond1011
{quote} Sorry, something went wrong and i was mistaken
No worries at all.
  • #4,157
  • Sep 27, 2021 8:11pm Sep 27, 2021 8:11pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Really it all comes down to trading conditions and getting paid. Pretty sure the purpose of the thread is to share REAL experience (good or bad) with the various firms. The key being REAL experience.
Can't be more true. Some guys just take it too far, too personal, and defend their opinions like some soccer fans defend their favorite teams
  • #4,158
  • Sep 28, 2021 12:00am Sep 28, 2021 12:00am
Quoting Takisd
I am but a wee individual of no significant importance.. But whats with the whole "MAN FTMO IS AMAZING WHY MFF THEY HAVE THIS Rule THAT DOESNt eXIST fuck THEM" posts? No really, what the hell is this shit? If FTMO is your primary, pick a secondary, MFF or whoever else. If MFF is your primary, pick a secondary, FTMO or anything else. There is no reason to spout bullshit in this thread. There are other places for that. "They use an office building with many other businesses". So does fucking Amazon, shut up. Murtuza said on the podcast that its managed...
It seems like you should get heart attack soon. Calm down man.
  • #4,159
  • Sep 28, 2021 12:03am Sep 28, 2021 12:03am
Quoting Vitore
{quote} How old are you? "Czechoslovakia" ceased to exist almost 30 years ago, just to put things right As for defending FTMO - I don't care about their origin. What I do care about however, is that MFF does not offer cTrader. For me, that's a deal breaker. Also, not sure how you came to the double price. 100k account is 499$ MFF and 632$ FTMO. That's only +27%, definitely not double. Considering the better profit split (90% vs 85%), more favorable daily DD buffer (can get several times bigger with FTMO compared to MFF) and the overal...
I meant Czech Republic of course. I'm old.

You must have forgotten to read my original post. I even put it in boldface. The 50K challenge price for MFF is the same cost as the 25K challenge price for FTMO.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #4,160
  • Edited 12:45am Sep 28, 2021 12:11am | Edited 12:45am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} ...... why would you even ask
that?
I do not understand, what do you mean by that.

I've spent endless hours putting together something that works. So I'm not willing to pass the source code to anybody. My question to them was if they would be OK with showing them the whole code on screen share session where I could describe how it works. The answer was what I attached in my previous message as screenshot.

Can you elaborate what's wrong with what I asked them?
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