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  • #3,301
  • Aug 30, 2021 7:45am Aug 30, 2021 7:45am
This guy below did some digging and summed it up pretty well.

On further checking the website it has multiple grammar errors and looks like a paid Wordpress website from fiverr for $50.

Guess these days all you need is a cpl hundred $ and anyone can open a "prop firm"

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  • #3,302
  • Aug 30, 2021 7:52am Aug 30, 2021 7:52am
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had to watch this... because Blake has a prop firm, to be still doing this type of stuff is shady at the very least.
  • #3,303
  • Aug 30, 2021 7:56am Aug 30, 2021 7:56am
Other question, does anyone know whether FTMO started 5 or 6 years ago like FT without copying any trades from traders, just to payout from collected fees only ?
Did FTMO then have problems with payouts to some traders in the past (say several years ago) too ?
  • #3,304
  • Aug 30, 2021 8:00am Aug 30, 2021 8:00am
Quoting Takisd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTJvE7Z3hcw had to watch this... because Blake has a prop firm, to be still doing this type of stuff is shady at the very least.
lol. I'm sure there is an affiliate link in there somewhere.
  • #3,305
  • Aug 30, 2021 8:03am Aug 30, 2021 8:03am
Quoting QAndy
Other question, does anyone know whether FTMO started 5 or 6 years ago like FT without copying any trades from traders, just to payout from collected fees only ? Did FTMO then have problems with payouts to some traders in the past (say several years ago) too ?
FTMO has their own thread. I've never had an issue being paid and have heard of no others. When I did my first challenge 14 months ago, they were using LMAX, spreads were horrible. When they switched to their own server, 1-2 months of "bugs". All good now. If there were issues with payment in the past, I'm sure they would've been posted in the FTMO thread.
  • #3,306
  • Aug 30, 2021 8:06am Aug 30, 2021 8:06am
Quoting QAndy
Other question, does anyone know whether FTMO started 5 or 6 years ago like FT without copying any trades from traders, just to payout from collected fees only ? Did FTMO then have problems with payouts to some traders in the past (say several years ago) too ?
When i have started the thread 1 year after tracking them because to me too was no clear what is all about... but in my opinion now they are on top with serious competition of MFF... in the videos their CEO says that have serious 2 or 3 investitors who are engaged in the bussines, i'm with matermind thinking anyway as soon as you pass the evaluation no matter what happend with them you are in risk free game
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  • #3,307
  • Edited 8:33am Aug 30, 2021 8:20am | Edited 8:33am
Quoting mizi123
{quote} When i have started the thread 1 year after tracking them because to me too was no clear what is all about... but in my opinion now they are on top with serious competition of MFF... in the videos their CEO says that have serious 2 or 3 investitors who are engaged in the bussines, i'm with matermind thinking anyway as soon as you pass the evaluation no matter what happend with them you are in risk free game {image}
The question to me is. When FT now makes payouts over $3 million monthly as I read on trustpilot (they also have the highest number of reviews of any prop firms there) and FTMO makes payout about $1.75 million for USD accounts, FT should be at least as big as FTMO now. So I would like to know if the way to go is the same as FTMO with having trades copied to live accounts, whether that is only a question of time.
But I do not know how FTMO started 5 or 6 years ago.

And for me it looks like that FTMO added recently Swing accounts allowing news trading and holding positions over the weekend, was due to pressure of the success from FT. Because it does not make sense to me why FTMO had it not added just much earlier, say 1 year ago or so when they switched to own server too.
  • #3,308
  • Aug 30, 2021 8:38am Aug 30, 2021 8:38am
Quoting QAndy
{quote} The question to me is. When FT now makes payouts over $3 million monthly as I read on trustpilot (they also have the highest number of reviews of any prop firms there) and FTMO makes payout about $1.75 million for USD accounts, FT should be at least as big as FTMO now. So I would like to know if the way to go is the same as FTMO with having trades copied to live accounts, whether that is only a question of time. But I do not know how FTMO started 5 or 6 years ago. And for me it looks like that FTMO added recently Swing accounts allowing...
you know you shouldn't believe everything you read right? FT has a history of brazen blatant dishonesty...so take all that $3mill and numerous reviews with a jar of salt.

FTMO still has the largest market share, with MFF creeping up,
  • #3,309
  • Aug 30, 2021 8:42am Aug 30, 2021 8:42am
Quoting QAndy
{quote} The question to me is. When FT now makes payouts over $3 million monthly as I read on trustpilot (they also have the highest number of reviews of any prop firms there) and FTMO makes payout about $1.75 million for USD accounts, FT should be at least as big as FTMO now. So I would like to know if the way to go is the same as FTMO with having trades copied to live accounts, whether that is only a question of time. But I do not know how FTMO started 5 or 6 years ago. And for me it looks like that FTMO added recently Swing accounts allowing...
That is cycle of doing business with time you grow rise in more powerful company and you add new products, from were money come i don't care as soon i get payed im not interesed to be honest Mine your and everyone else concern should be how to adapt our edge to be part of these game
  • #3,310
  • Aug 30, 2021 8:44am Aug 30, 2021 8:44am
Quoting mizi123
{quote} That is cycle of doing business with time you grow rise in more powerful company and you add new products, from were money come i don't care as soon i get payed im not interesed to be honest
That is what I doubt to be as said on previous post. I think this number of $3 miilion payout must be mentioned in their discord channel too (for me such a number cannot be from air only). It looks like (there are some indicators) that FT is number 1 now and FTMO is copying FT (with the new added Swing accounts).
  • #3,311
  • Aug 30, 2021 8:54am Aug 30, 2021 8:54am
Quoting QAndy
{quote} The question to me is. When FT now makes payouts over $3 million monthly as I read on trustpilot (they also have the highest number of reviews of any prop firms there) and FTMO makes payout about $1.75 million for USD accounts, FT should be at least as big as FTMO now. So I would like to know if the way to go is the same as FTMO with having trades copied to live accounts, whether that is only a question of time. But I do not know how FTMO started 5 or 6 years ago. And for me it looks like that FTMO added recently Swing accounts allowing...
I'd say 90% of the reviews on trust pilot are from FT affiliates. Trustpilot is an absolute joke.
  • #3,312
  • Aug 30, 2021 8:57am Aug 30, 2021 8:57am
Quoting QAndy
{quote} The question to me is. When FT now makes payouts over $3 million monthly as I read on trustpilot (they also have the highest number of reviews of any prop firms there) and FTMO makes payout about $1.75 million for USD accounts, FT should be at least as big as FTMO now. So I would like to know if the way to go is the same as FTMO with having trades copied to live accounts, whether that is only a question of time. But I do not know how FTMO started 5 or 6 years ago. And for me it looks like that FTMO added recently Swing accounts allowing...

FT have less than 1/2 of the web traffic that FTMO has... so... FT is good at lying as we already know by now.
  • #3,313
  • Aug 30, 2021 9:00am Aug 30, 2021 9:00am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I'd say 90% of the reviews on trust pilot are from FT affiliates. Trustpilot is an absolute joke.
...and when you take their (FT) own words that they grew so much recently that changes had to be made ? It makes sense when having view from a certain distance.
For me the conditions on FT are still #1, then MFF #2, and FTMO #3. FT just doing some switches to adjust the recent growth of new members. When there is no rule change anymore, then FT would be considered #1 in the prop firm space more clearly, like it was last month in July e.g., when they had best conditions far far away from any competitors. They are still better in conditions than FTMO. I just would like to hear no more issues with payouts, thats it.
  • #3,314
  • Aug 30, 2021 9:04am Aug 30, 2021 9:04am
Quoting QAndy
{quote} That is what I doubt to be as said on previous post. I think this number of $3 miilion payout must be mentioned in their discord channel too (for me such a number cannot be from air only). It looks like (there are some indicators) that FT is number 1 now and FTMO is copying FT (with the new added Swing accounts).
Lol Are you Trolling?
or shilling?
  • #3,315
  • Aug 30, 2021 9:07am Aug 30, 2021 9:07am
Quoting Koop
{quote} Lol Are you Trolling? or shilling?
no, I just want to be open minded and neutral as much as I can.
  • #3,316
  • Aug 30, 2021 9:08am Aug 30, 2021 9:08am
Quoting Koop
{quote} Lol Are you Trolling? or shilling?

Its likely 3million figure came from their total incoming revenue. Based on traffic stats that would be approximately accurate give or take a few hundred k.
  • #3,317
  • Aug 30, 2021 9:12am Aug 30, 2021 9:12am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Its likely 3million figure came from their total incoming revenue. Based on traffic stats that would be approximately accurate give or take a few hundred k.
Well a couple of weeks ago the CEO of FT just said the had payouts of $1.5 million on a two weeks time period.
  • #3,318
  • Aug 30, 2021 9:16am Aug 30, 2021 9:16am
Quoting QAndy
{quote} ...and when you take their (FT) own words that they grew so much recently that changes had to be made ? It makes sense when having view from a certain distance. For me the conditions on FT are still #1, then MFF #2, and FTMO #3. FT just doing some switches to adjust the recent growth of new members. When there is no rule change anymore, then FT would be considered #1 in the prop firm space more clearly, like it was last month in July e.g., when they had best conditions far far away from any competitors. They are still better in conditions...
The conditions you're referring to were fiction. I don't know how you can make these kinds of comparisons at this point with a straight face. We're talking about the same firm whose CEO responded to her clients by showing her naked ass on Instagram.
  • #3,319
  • Aug 30, 2021 9:18am Aug 30, 2021 9:18am
Quoting QAndy
{quote} Well a couple of weeks ago the CEO of FT just said the had payouts of $1.5 million on a two weeks time period.
She also thought it was ok to post an ass selfie and has threatened pretty much every one of her competitors and any youtube who didn't climb on that mountain.
Unless she sends an audited statement from a big 4, I won't believe a fucking word she says.
  • #3,320
  • Aug 30, 2021 9:19am Aug 30, 2021 9:19am
Quoting EnoFX
{quote} The conditions you're referring to were fiction. I don't know how you can make these kinds of comparisons at this point with a straight face.
Because it has been said several times from different persons here that FTMO also had problems when introducing their own server. Just to mention that fact here.
My original question was, how was FTMO doing 5 years ago (as comparison to FT now), did they copy trades to live accounts at that time too or not ?
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