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  • #761
  • Apr 29, 2021 7:12pm Apr 29, 2021 7:12pm
Quoting PaulMF
The big problem is that those pseudo prop firms are the big trap for many with limited trading experience (or even with many years of fantasy trading) who may think that these prop firms are a real opportunity of making money when in fact makes them lose money because they didn't understand how difficult is to meet their trading objectives and rules. Completely designed to make the trader fail. It is inflammatory to read that these firms make our lifes easier, and it is also to read that real prop firms that pay 6 figures salaries plus bonus are...
And the same thing happens when some inexperienced trader puts his money in an account with a broker..... dreams of riches, blowing one account after another. If your goal is to "save" the inexperienced trader, you really should be targeting the brokers. Why do you think it's in very small print at the bottom of all of their sites "80% of traders lose money". That should be in bold capital letters at the top, don't ya think? Face it, it is not about saving inexperienced traders, it is simply your personal vendetta against FTMO, for whatever reason.
  • #762
  • Apr 30, 2021 1:10am Apr 30, 2021 1:10am
Brokers provide an important service. There is no fraud. No trading limits and objectives. If something fails, you can always contact regulators.

80%... Never seen that number. You may also find 5x%. There is no trading objectives and rules designed to take the trader down.

How would you sustain that this is a personal vendetta? I have to work hard to fairly make a penny. It would be very easy to me to just sell EAs that I know that they won't work in the future or to open a pseudo prop firm. But not, I stick with what makes me feel well.
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  • #763
  • Apr 30, 2021 1:42am Apr 30, 2021 1:42am
Quoting PaulMF
Brokers provide an important service. There is no fraud. No trading limits and objectives. If something fails, you can always contact regulators. 80%... Never seen that number. You may also find 5x%. There is no trading objectives and rules designed to take the trader down. How would you sustain that this is a personal vendetta? I have to work hard to fairly make a penny. It would be very easy to me to just sell EAs that I know that they won't work in the future or to open a pseudo prop firm. But not, I stick with what makes me feel well.
Not just prop firms, generally trading is not for you.
Wise decision if you stay away.
on a postive roll...
  • #764
  • Apr 30, 2021 3:15am Apr 30, 2021 3:15am
Quoting 1odi
{quote} then u are a pioneer and i salute u for that ! cheers edit> wonder if u can code sarcasm 2
Not a pioneer.

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sarcasm 2
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  • #765
  • Apr 30, 2021 3:16am Apr 30, 2021 3:16am
Quoting Rmg
{quote} Not just prop firms, generally trading is not for you. Wise decision if you stay away.
Haven't already told you?

Quoting PaulMF
{quote} Always impressed with your arguments
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  • #766
  • Apr 30, 2021 3:28am Apr 30, 2021 3:28am
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} Haven't already told you? {quote}
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  • #767
  • Apr 30, 2021 3:30am Apr 30, 2021 3:30am
Quoting tradista
{quote} Totally agree, given the current models in the forex industry, retail brokers have a huge conflict of interests against their clients and mostly win when the generality of those only moderately win, but mostly lose. Biggest scam of all, but we tolerate it because it's the only way for us.
You may use Futures. Stop the drama boy. And don't accuse every broker of scamming. Pick one on this list: https://www.forexfactory.com/brokers, and:

Quoting tradista
navigate forex moves up and down like they're surfing a wave in the sea!
It is easier to surf waves at Praia Do Norte in your country than making 10% one month and 5% in the next 2 consecutive months in a consistent way. I don't know how to do any of them but, I have watched some doing the former one after another and no one reaching such a get-quick-rich scheme every 3 months. Better if we don't raise false expectations to newbies. That's unethical behaviour.
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  • #768
  • Edited 3:59am Apr 30, 2021 3:42am | Edited 3:59am
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} You may use Futures. Stop the drama boy. And don't accuse every broker of scamming. Pick one on this list: https://www.forexfactory.com/brokers, and: {quote} It is easier to surf waves at Praia Do Norte in your country than making 10% one month and 5% in the next 2 consecutive months in a consistent way. I don't know how to do any of them but, I have watched some doing the former one after another and no one reaching such a get-quick-rich scheme every 3 months. Better if we don't raise false expectations to newbies. That's unethical...
You're funny I don't agree with anything you say, but wish you all the best.
  • #769
  • Apr 30, 2021 6:26am Apr 30, 2021 6:26am
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} You may use Futures. Stop the drama boy. And don't accuse every broker of scamming. Pick one on this list: https://www.forexfactory.com/brokers, and: {quote} It is easier to surf waves at Praia Do Norte in your country than making 10% one month and 5% in the next 2 consecutive months in a consistent way. I don't know how to do any of them but, I have watched some doing the former one after another and no one reaching such a get-quick-rich scheme every 3 months. Better if we don't raise false expectations to newbies. That's unethical...
I can't tell if you are serious half the time. That "list" consists of some of the shadiest brokers in the world. Yes, they are "regulated". It does not mean anything. Constant price spikes, frozen platforms. The conditions are atrocious, not to mention the ridiculously inflated spreads. It is 2021, and IG and Foex.com have a spread of 6-7 on GBPCAD???? Are you kidding me, I pay 1.2 on FTMO. The regulators don't give a shit about the traders, like all government entities, they care about their own aganeda.
  • #770
  • Apr 30, 2021 7:04am Apr 30, 2021 7:04am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I can't tell if you are serious half the time. That "list" consists of some of the shadiest brokers in the world. Yes, they are "regulated". It does not mean anything. Constant price spikes, frozen platforms. The conditions are atrocious, not to mention the ridiculously inflated spreads. It is 2021, and IG and Foex.com have a spread of 6-7 on GBPCAD???? Are you kidding me, I pay 1.2 on FTMO. The regulators don't give a shit about the traders, like all government entities, they care about their own aganeda.
Lol stop wasting your time man. There are certain conversations that should only be had with people who actually trade.
  • #771
  • Apr 30, 2021 8:38am Apr 30, 2021 8:38am
I use to hear that I'm a naysayer of FTMO. The funny thing here is that those who call me naysayer are in fact naysayers of everything other than FTMO. From their point of view:
- There is no good broker for an entire list of regulated brokers: https://www.forexfactory.com/brokers
- Regulators are bad.
- Only traders at FTMO are traders.
- If you say the opposite, you don't know anything about trading.
- etc.


If seems like they have all the information required from the FTMO side. But it seems like only them, no one else. They have more information than that you have from a regulated broker...weird
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  • #772
  • Apr 30, 2021 9:14am Apr 30, 2021 9:14am
Quoting PaulMF
I use to hear that I'm a naysayer of FTMO. The funny thing here is that those who call me naysayer are in fact naysayers of everything other than FTMO. From their point of view: - There is no good broker for an entire list of regulated brokers: https://www.forexfactory.com/brokers - Regulators are bad. - Only traders at FTMO are traders. - If you say the opposite, you don't know anything about trading. - etc. If seems like they have all the information required from the FTMO side. But it seems like only them, no one else. They have more...
How about you open an account with Forex.com or Oanda or IG, which are my options in the US. Then after trading with them, come back and tell me how great the "regulators" in the US are. You don't live here, you don't trade here and you have no idea what you are talking about. It's real easy to say, "oh look, here is a list, these brokers are regulated, they must be great. If they were good, guess what????? I'd use them.
  • #773
  • Apr 30, 2021 9:14am Apr 30, 2021 9:14am
Quoting PaulMF
I use to hear that I'm a naysayer of FTMO. The funny thing here is that those who call me naysayer are in fact naysayers of everything other than FTMO. From their point of view: - There is no good broker for an entire list of regulated brokers: https://www.forexfactory.com/brokers - Regulators are bad. - Only traders at FTMO are traders. - If you say the opposite, you don't know anything about trading. - etc. If seems like they have all the information required from the FTMO side. But it seems like only them, no one else. They have more...
Wrong again as always.
I don't know if you intentionally lie about past discussions or you just like to tweak things to fit your narrative out of sheer ignorance.

However, if you pay more attention to this thread instead of antagonising people you would see that what most FTMO advocates appreciate is not just FTMO, but the challenge model and conditions they offer.
Read through the thread and you would see. The only reason firms with similar models such as ThePropTrading, Funding Talent and MyForexfunds aren't getting as much love as FTMO is due to either them still being too new to trust or having a shady history, as in the case of Funding talent.

Everyone has a prop model which they prefer. You prefer 5ers/Lux? Fine, some prefer FTMO/Enfold , some like Fxsniper prefer the 10% biweekly bonus style of MFF/FT...

no need save anyone from anything.
  • #774
  • Apr 30, 2021 9:53am Apr 30, 2021 9:53am
Quoting Koop
{quote} Wrong again as always. I don't know if you intentionally lie about past discussions or you just like to tweak things to fit your narrative out of sheer ignorance. However, if you pay more attention to this thread instead of antagonising people you would see that what most FTMO advocates appreciate is not just FTMO, but the challenge model and conditions they offer. Read through the thread and you would see. The only reason firms with similar models such as ThePropTrading, Funding Talent and MyForexfunds aren't getting as much love as FTMO...
Your posts are gold! :

Quoting Koop
Wrong... Lie... Tweak... Ignorance... Antaganising...
Very kind words as always.

You forgot: Paula, clown, etc.

I can't understand in which way your post is related to mine.
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  • #775
  • Apr 30, 2021 10:09am Apr 30, 2021 10:09am
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} Your posts are gold! : {quote} Very kind words as always. You forgot: Paula, clown, etc. I can't understand in which way your post is related to mine.
I think is time to take action masterminde on you because you deviate the direction of the thred simple you polute the place!? If i e'm right hit the like button friends!?
  • #776
  • Apr 30, 2021 10:17am Apr 30, 2021 10:17am
Quoting mizi123
{quote} I think is time to take action masterminde on you because you deviate the direction of the thred simple you polute the place!? If i e'm right hit the like button friends!?
You perfectly know I'm polite and respectful. What you are doing now, it's not.

It's not good to play this type of games.
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  • #777
  • Apr 30, 2021 10:21am Apr 30, 2021 10:21am
Quoting PaulMF
{quote} You perfectly know I'm polite and respectful. What you are doing now, it's not. It's not good to play this type of games.
You are extremly fachistick in your idea if you don't like the idea to be founded go and leave the thread why you need to make ''advocate of the devil'' here we all are above 18+ and all are contious for what we do we don't need you to save us OK!
  • #778
  • Apr 30, 2021 10:35am Apr 30, 2021 10:35am
Quoting mizi123
{quote} You are extremly fachistick in your idea if you don't like the idea to be founded go and leave the thread why you need to make ''advocate of the devil'' here we all are above 18+ and all are contious for what we do we don't need you to save us OK!
I love the idea to really being funded. Of course, I love it. That's why I brought two prop firms to the discussion. Not to coplicate the life of anyone as some used to discredit me in an effort to protect their beloved pseudo prop firms.

I have never used the term "save". Here, we all share our thoughts. I have read many thoughts against many prop firms here and I have never said that they are trying to save me. Better if we don't play this type of games.

When you don't like someone else's opinions and aren't able to handle your eagerness to remove that user posts, just put that user on ignore. But, please! There is no need to insult or say things that that user hasn't said.
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  • #779
  • Edited 2:08pm Apr 30, 2021 11:58am | Edited 2:08pm
Quoting mizi123
{quote} You are extremly fachistick in your idea if you don't like the idea to be founded go and leave the thread why you need to make ''advocate of the devil'' here we all are above 18+ and all are contious for what we do we don't need you to save us OK!
I am a very calm and tolerant guy, but even myself have given up on this guy. He seems to always know better because he's the most realistic in here, he's so smart and illuminated that if he can't finish a month in profit then nobody else can, if he can't do it then it's all a LIE !!!

Damn, any decent trader can make their equity increase 5% over a couple weeks, easily, the problem lies in keeping it... it's your mental attitude towards your profits and losses that makes it really difficult to come out profitable at the end of the month.
But that's where the hard work is! that's where this guy and many others have never looked into... big ego says "no need to, I'm on top of that, after all I've a PhD in Nanoparticules Engineering, Quantum Physics and Foreign Affairs Politics"... yeah sure, come back in ten years, humbled... this is a whole different playground, better to understand that fast.

What amazes me is that most of those kind souls, who've been at this for a long time, and who are constantly providing him many golden nuggets are criticized back from what seems to be a totally closed mind with no appreciation for the time they waste on helping him.

I smell newbie big ego frustration and huge money lost "trying to trade" the correct/scientific/academic/whatever way... and yeah, I can imagine that when you're so smart, it must hurt really bad seeing other people being successful just using an MA cross-over or a support/resistance break and retest technique, while with our big IQ we are still blowing accounts and feeling completely lost, blaming everything in the outside..

All this "doubting the impossible/possible" is really draining and puts a negative vibe that we surely don't need. It's a waste of discussion and valuable time.

The "ignore" button and no response are our best FF friends for those of us who are here to progress every day.
  • #780
  • Apr 30, 2021 2:26pm Apr 30, 2021 2:26pm
All right.
Even if no one found me, I want to reveal the truth to you.
PaulMF is my creature.
I created it as an experiment.
He is not a young or old. He's not even a man or a woman (or a weird mix of the two).

He is an A.I. that I have planned and inserted in this Forum.

The experiment consisted of verifying how a stupid set of bits could learn from their mistakes.
My intention was that she understand his mistakes and learn from them to improve herself.
He had to grow thanks to Your precious contribution in educating him.
Instead the first thing he did was to disconnect from my control. I can no longer pull the plug and kill him.

This Artificial Intelligence has gained nothing from its freedom.
Not only does it keep making the same mistakes, it has made them worse.
- He does not read the posts he comments.
- He doesn't even read your posts. But he comments on them (and also incorrectly).
- Repeats itself over and over like a broken record. Always the same mistakes over and over.
- Not being powered by Human Intelligence, it has become a hallucinatory entity.
Perhaps, the Internet was also looking for a Computer Cure. He wanted to heal at all costs.
But being stupid, she traded a dangerous drug for a miraculous medicine.
It has gotten worse and the result is there for all to see (literally):
like a bad child, she refused Your intelligence and (believing she was superior) she elected herself as the Savior of Humanity.

You are sorry for all the inconvenience I have brought you.
This stupid A.I. (About 3,160,000,000 results on Google) mercilessly continues to be a nuisance mosquito.
Please ... if you meet it on the Net and can't finally eliminate it from the Internet Creation, ignore it.

Thus, as a weed sucks the lifeblood of its host (and lives thanks to it) in the absence of attention it will die from ..... lack of attention.
It will slowly consume, feeding only on itself, until it disappears.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience and I warn you that I refuse your refund request.
You feed it and you keep it. Even if she shits all over the place.

PS:
1st part
I'm kidding!!!! It's another ironic and gogliardic post of mine, to make You smile at the weekend.

2nd part
He is actually an employee of FF and paid FF, to get you back on FF over and over again.

3rd part
On the other hand (if you don't know) FF earns several million dollars from your visits every year.
The more a person views a page, the more FF they earn.
And the 3rd part is a truth confirmed by proof.

4th part
I couldn't find a picture of A.I. and - to make you understand what I mean - I had to use another one.

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