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  • #21
  • Mar 22, 2021 11:45pm Mar 22, 2021 11:45pm
Quoting TimeTells
I agree with the S/R statement. I mean, really, WHO is doing all that supporting and who is doing all that resisting. I never grapsed that idea.
Hi Pete, we are told(indoctrinated) by the gurus on FF that dumb retail traders are doing all that resisting with their 0.01lots. You're either slow or stubborn.

Pete, this is beginning to get addictive.
Scramble the password is the only solution. Franky!!!
Know what you trade
  • #22
  • Mar 22, 2021 11:55pm Mar 22, 2021 11:55pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote}
Hi Pete, we are told(indoctrinated) by the gurus on FF that dumb retail traders are doing all that resisting with their 0.01lots.
You're either slow or stubborn.

Pete, this is beginning to get addictive. Scramble the password is the only solution. Franky!!!


Hahaa BW, a little bit of both I reckon lol.
  • #23
  • Mar 23, 2021 12:03am Mar 23, 2021 12:03am
Quoting moodybot
So those stupid fake lines you all draw and call support/resistance mean absolutely nothing because the candles you see and connect also mean absolutely nothing.

A statement and begs the question I have long thought over, regards FX.

It seems that someone or something likes 'candle to candle' lines. I don't think of them ever as S/R S/D etc . To me they are just Targets.

The prob a lot of people have with the concept is they might think that a target is a final ending place. And therefore reverses.
May be true around 50% of the time, much the same as most indis etc get in their 'predictiveness'.

But if a target was a place that someone or something was "going to'. Well couldn't that mean something else other than what to do when it arrives ?

All a bit of fx-fun.

(Just printed on the charts not 5 mins ago)

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  • #24
  • Mar 23, 2021 12:50am Mar 23, 2021 12:50am
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Hi Pete, we are told(indoctrinated) by the gurus on FF that dumb retail traders are doing all that resisting with their 0.01lots. ~~~~
I'm guessing no one said that, you just wanted to have a shot at S/R?

I've taken the view (rightly or wrongly) that the S/R we see all over the charts is evidence of price manipulation.
Good Trading
  • #25
  • Mar 23, 2021 12:55am Mar 23, 2021 12:55am
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Quoting TimeTells
{quote} It seems that someone or something likes 'candle to candle' lines. I don't think of them ever as S/R S/D etc . To me they are just Targets.

Here is an example, of 200 pip target.

Just how frequently and dependently, the price reaches the next 200 pips target?
Timing to the next 200 pips, seems to be working like a Swiss clock, although trades are not time-based opened...
It is weird how every next 200 pips target opens up similar number of trades and lots, is not it?
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #26
  • Edited 8:11pm Mar 23, 2021 1:04am | Edited 8:11pm
Quoting aud
I'm guessing no one said that, you just wanted to have a shot at S/R? I've taken the view (rightly or wrongly) that the S/R we see all over the charts is evidence of price manipulation.
TimeTells question still begs an answer. No matter.
Quoting TimeTells
I mean, really, WHO is doing all that supporting and who is doing all that resisting. I never grapsed that idea.
If members of this forum are not brave enough to answer this question or at least candidly tell what the forum told us. What hope is there in any discussion.
(I wrote a post about this. Check my post history.)

And the answer is...?

Ps. I received a timely pm from someone I respect. I shall heed his advice. Thanks a lot for the pm and the slap in my face.

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Know what you trade
  • #27
  • Edited 1:24am Mar 23, 2021 1:09am | Edited 1:24am
Quoting aud
{quote}
I'm guessing no one said that, you just wanted to have a shot at S/R?
I've taken the view (rightly or wrongly) that the S/R we see all over the charts is evidence of price manipulation.

EDIT : you beat me to it BW lol, cheers
(double edit to your edit BW lol - it wasn't me who timely pm'd)


There is no right or wrong aud, we are all on our own working fx out pal.

Why I do not support the concept of Support & Resistance as such, is, with hours and hours of thinking, I couldn't satisfy myself just who was doing the supporting and who was doing the resisting. And when trading it served me no advantage (personally, I mean) to wonder who might be supporting price here, or resisting price there. Then they 'taught' me that support can flip to resistance etc. And I said "enough" lol. Targets, the 'a going somewhere' for price, worked better in my old (horseracing) brain.

Each to their own in how they see it of course.


(AUDUSD update from the chart above, a new target reached, the 1hr candle from 13:00 chart time on 10 Mar 21 - why was that a target, more targets to come further ?)


imho Manipulation has too much of a negative connotation to it.

Orchestration suits me better (and best we not discuss the conductor of the orchestra ).

PLUS

I don';t actually think FX could operate functionally without it.
  • #28
  • Mar 23, 2021 1:48am Mar 23, 2021 1:48am
I really don't know where this thread is going.
Please come to the point.
  • #29
  • Mar 23, 2021 1:52am Mar 23, 2021 1:52am
Quoting asalami23
I really don't know where this thread is going. Please come to the point.
If you don’t know then thanks for stopping by.
  • #30
  • Mar 23, 2021 2:05am Mar 23, 2021 2:05am
Lol Andy you are a classic

I do enjoy these forums in between my limited trading.



Quoting asalami23
I really don't know where this thread is going.
Please come to the point.

Hi asalami,

It's a new, day one, thread.

What would you like to have read about, when you came in to view.

I guess I'm asking, what were your original expectations ?

cheers
Pete
  • #31
  • Mar 23, 2021 2:18am Mar 23, 2021 2:18am
Quoting TimeTells
Lol Andy you are a classic I do enjoy these forums in between my limited trading. {quote} Hi asalami, It's a new, day one, thread. What would you like to have read about, when you came in to view. I guess I'm asking, what were your original expectations ? cheers Pete
I thought of getting profitable as soon as i start reading the thread
  • #32
  • Mar 23, 2021 2:25am Mar 23, 2021 2:25am
Quoting asalami23
{quote}
I thought of getting profitable as soon as i start reading the thread

Hahaaa, excellent reply, good humour.



Well profit, it's a wish for us all, yes.


Andy/Moody called his thread Flying Dutchman.


I did a quick google and wiki came up with what is obviously Andy's dark humourous side.


Flying Dutchman
The Flying Dutchman is a legendary ghost ship which was said to never be able to make port, doomed to sail the oceans forever.
(The myth is likely to have originated from the 17th-century Golden Age of the Dutch East India Company)


Good fortunes to you asalami23
  • #33
  • Mar 23, 2021 2:28am Mar 23, 2021 2:28am
Quoting asalami23
I really don't know where this thread is going. Please come to the point.
Well just above your post the thread went quickly from S/R to manipulation to orchestrated. One might ponder as to whether they are all the same thing?
Either way it's not random.
Good Trading
  • #34
  • Mar 23, 2021 2:58am Mar 23, 2021 2:58am
It is also unclear to me where this thread is going, but when I see that:

- Mr. 10000USD/pip (you know, the guy who rocks) is around and

- MoneyZilla is around and

- Aussi is lurking and trolling Andy AAAANNNNDDDDD

- BW is here as well

I am sure it will be at least very entertaining We have all ingredients...

So I am looking forward to see how it develops.

Cheers everyone,

B
On ignore list of scammers, deceivers and low IQ individuals. Exclusively
  • #35
  • Mar 23, 2021 3:03am Mar 23, 2021 3:03am
Quoting aud
{quote}
Well just above your post the thread went quickly from S/R to manipulation to orchestrated.

One might ponder as to whether they are all the same thing?

Either way it's not random.

Hi aud,

In a sense yes, in a sense not so, maybe its just semantics, or not
(but yes imo to your last sentence re random).


With Support & Resistance there is always the underlying expectation that something will happen at that SR line.

For me, with targets, its more about price getting to that line, rather than what might happen when price gets there.



Price changes.

And traders, I guess are focused on price and its movements, with their own expectation.


We are back to I guess,

does price encourage liquidity, or does liquidity chase price?
  • #36
  • Mar 23, 2021 4:18am Mar 23, 2021 4:18am
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} TimeTells question still begs an answer. No matter. {quote} If members of this forum are not brave enough to answer this question or at least candidly tell what did the forum told us. What hope is there in any discussion. (I wrote a post about this. Check my post history.) And the answer is...? Ps. I received a timely pm from someone I respect. I shall heed his advice. Thanks a lot for the pm and the slap in my face.
WHO is doing all that supporting and who is doing all that resisting?

Its trapped bankers avoiding large draw downs by adding to their position at key levels, to encourage smaller traders to support their position.

Therefore its not market manipulation but banker "fuck up".

I can see 1 large transactions on EURUSD 3 hours ago at 1.1919 which was a large Buy order from a big player - they got smashed.
The manipulation is an attempt by them to save their skin by stopping price before the breakout boys enter pass a support level -

BUT TOO LATE THEY GOT CRUSHED BY A STAMPEDE
And you think retail traders worry about losing a few dollars - Bankers aren't that lucky.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #37
  • Mar 23, 2021 4:51am Mar 23, 2021 4:51am
Sell-Stop Gold @ 1719.0 —> 1755.9 / 1700.5 ...
Market is not random but unpredictable
  • #38
  • Mar 23, 2021 5:18am Mar 23, 2021 5:18am
Quoting 4for4
Sell-Stop Gold @ 1719.0 —> 1755.9 / 1700.5 ...
Well look what Andy has created - a live signal channel
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #39
  • Mar 23, 2021 5:27am Mar 23, 2021 5:27am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Well look what Andy has created - a live signal channel
Why not? Anything goes in this thread as the Flying Dutchman sails the oceans endlessly ...
Market is not random but unpredictable
  • #40
  • Mar 23, 2021 5:31am Mar 23, 2021 5:31am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Well look what Andy has created - a live signal channel
I thought that.. wow, anyone on?
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