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  • #261
  • Mar 29, 2018 2:53am Mar 29, 2018 2:53am
Hi tictac-nur,

with ea001, it's starting always with 0.01 lot, although i have fixes lot true 0.1 (eurusd)

another problem in all versions of the ea. he has problems with dax calculation. my dax has 2 digits. if i enter the correct zone with 2 more digits, for example 2000...the zone is ok with 20 pips, but 2000 tp_1 is not ok. he is always closing with 1-3 mini pips!!
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  • #262
  • Edited 10:29am Mar 29, 2018 6:08am | Edited 10:29am
Quoting munna00
Ticket handler open several buy sell in one position at a time {image} in pic, top one my manual open order, to recover this see the result in below 177 numbers buy sell orders in m5 chart all order open in few secs
Thanks Tictac Nur for V11 - updated ZRM + Grid version.

munna00 - Have a look at #post 201 on page 11 - A similar situation has happened to me, using an External EA. (External EA Trade : The first trade gets opened by an external EA). I was told the settings in the multiplier could be the problem. But i have adjusted these to default settings and used another separate External EA, but I still experience the same situation as yourself. I wonder whether its because some External EAs have 2 Magic numbers, and ZRM accommodates only 1 Magic number. Anyone have a solution to this issue - as it could unfortunately prevent its use on External EA Trades?
  • #263
  • Mar 29, 2018 6:15am Mar 29, 2018 6:15am
Quoting tictac-nur
UPDATE Zone Recovery Management V11
Thanks Mr. Tukang for this latest version.

Quoting tictac-nur
[New] Background Box at the back of text info
Can you please give us option to chose color? Black is too dark to read text.

Quoting tictac-nur
[New] Integrated My Grid EA (Code name EA001)
I think more controllers required to let it work (lot size, multiplier, max trades etc). As per visual back test, Grid engine is not helping TicTac to recover its losing positions. Rather it is speeding up the blow up of the account

Can you please give us some explanation, how we can use this feature as you mentioned earlier.

Quoting tictac-nur
Ranging Market : Grid win, ZRM loss
Trending Market : Grid loss, ZRM win

ZRM + Grid EA001 = Ranging Market Win & Trending Market Win
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  • #264
  • Mar 29, 2018 6:23am Mar 29, 2018 6:23am
Quoting munna00
Ticket handler open several buy sell in one position at a time {image} in pic, top one my manual open order, to recover this see the result in below 177 numbers buy sell orders in m5 chart all order open in few secs

I applied v11 to handle one particular ticket number and same happened. Despite it gained control of requested trade, it opened 100+ extra trades of 0.01 lot within 3 seconds. I thinks its bug in newly added Grid Engine. lets Mr. Tukang check this
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  • #265
  • Mar 29, 2018 6:26am Mar 29, 2018 6:26am
Quoting Zingers
{quote} Thanks Mr. Tukang for V11 - this latest updated version. munna00 - Have a look at #post 201 on page 11 - A similar situation has happened to me, using an External EA. (External EA Trade : The first trade gets opened by an external EA). I was told the settings in the multiplier could be the problem. But i have adjusted these to default settings and used another separate External EA, but I still experience the same situation as yourself. I wonder whether its because some External EAs have 2 Magic numbers, and ZRM accommodates only 1 Magic...

That was a different issue. Mr. Tukang has replied you in post 232. You have set multiplier less than 1. It must be greater than 1.1.
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=10905288#post10905288
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  • #266
  • Edited 8:31am Mar 29, 2018 7:11am | Edited 8:31am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} That was a different issue. Mr. Tukang has replied you in post 232. You have set multiplier less than 1. It must be greater than 1.1. https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=10905288#post10905288


My Feedback - Not to be construed as criticism in any way...

Hi KashifNawaz

I have disproved that theory if you would kindly read post #262 it says:
" I was told the settings in the multiplier could be the problem. But i have adjusted these to the default settings and used another separate External EA, but I still experience the same situation"
And as you have just stated "it opened 100+ extra trades of 0.01 lot within 3 seconds. I thinks its bug". KashifNawaz - This is the very same experience...

Also.
What is interesting is that i opened 2 fresh MT4 platforms for the same Broker - hedge friendly, different accounts but with the same currency, one with the External EA the other one with the External EA Trade + ZRM v10 - default setings
These issues happened only in External EA Trade + ZRM v10 "Default settings"

Anyone have a solution to this issue?
  • #267
  • Mar 29, 2018 7:14am Mar 29, 2018 7:14am
@tictac nur

In theory Loss recovery + grid means you always win.
But how your EA can recognize when to use grid and when to use loss recovery?
Nobody can predict in advance if market will be ranging or trending in the coming days so how can we use decide which engine to use?
Thanks
  • #268
  • Edited 9:21am Mar 29, 2018 8:39am | Edited 9:21am
Yes Merka

Waiting for some explanation from Mr. Tukan (I hope this is his actual name)
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  • #269
  • Mar 29, 2018 10:49am Mar 29, 2018 10:49am
for recover old manual loss trade, i normally use v3 version to trade itself with defines magic number but dont close trade
i made another EA which calculate that v3 tictac EA profit with his defined magic number and old my trade with ticket handler. and set one profit in usd
if v3 profit + manual ticket profit = target reached, close all tictact v3 trade and my manual trade.
both EA need to open in same pair but diff window

this is EA using another EA method

if i have tictac EA master file mq4 code i can merge both EA in one

setting here :
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Both EA:

Attached File(s)
File Type: ex4 tictac_nur_V3.ex4   35 KB | 549 downloads


Attached File(s)
File Type: ex4 Balance EA .ex4   9 KB | 557 downloads
  • #270
  • Mar 30, 2018 12:08am Mar 30, 2018 12:08am
how can I raise the price because my account is micro and always opens 0.01
  • #271
  • Mar 30, 2018 5:06am Mar 30, 2018 5:06am
Quoting munna00
for recover old manual loss trade, i normally use v3 version to trade itself with defines magic number but dont close trade i made another EA which calculate that v3 tictac EA profit with his defined magic number and old my trade with ticket handler. and set one profit in usd if v3 profit + manual ticket profit = target reached, close all tictact v3 trade and my manual trade. both EA need to open in same pair but diff window this is EA using another EA method if i have tictac EA master file mq4 code i can merge both EA in one setting here : {image}...
Hi munna00. Interesting exercise for "old manual trades". I have downloaded copies of your files and will try them out next week.
  • #272
  • Apr 3, 2018 11:27pm Apr 3, 2018 11:27pm
Quoting munna00
for recover old manual loss trade, i normally use v3 version to trade itself with defines magic number but dont close trade i made another EA which calculate that v3 tictac EA profit with his defined magic number and old my trade with ticket handler. and set one profit in usd if v3 profit + manual ticket profit = target reached, close all tictact v3 trade and my manual trade. both EA need to open in same pair but diff window this is EA using another EA method if i have tictac EA master file mq4 code i can merge both EA in one setting here : {image}...
little update in Balance EA, add magic and comments to take tictac v3 entry exact position
also EA close both chart (tictac v3 and balance EA) at a time after target reached and defined trade close....cause otherwise v3 again entry new position for new cycle after old cycle closed by balance EA

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File Type: ex4 Balance EA.ex4   10 KB | 467 downloads
  • #273
  • Apr 3, 2018 11:45pm Apr 3, 2018 11:45pm
Quoting munna00
{quote} little update in Balance EA, add magic and comments to take tictac v3 entry exact position also EA close both chart (tictac v3 and balance EA) at a time after target reached and defined trade close....cause otherwise v3 again entry new position for new cycle after old cycle closed by balance EA {file}

Whats your purpose here Munna?
If you want to early close the cycle of TicTac, you can use any version of TicTac. If cycle's first entry was manual then there will be no magic number. So whatever manual entry you will add, it will automatically join the cycle and will close along with other trades.

But if your first entry was with another EA (different magic number) then you have to add same magic number in TicTac and it will take care of that.

On another note, if you want TicTac to control your losing trade then lot size must be very low. If your manual trade is .5 lot or 1 lot then you must have 20k$ in your account for TicTac to take care of it. :-) If you will reduce the multiplier, TicTac will need more pips to close cycle.
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  • #274
  • Apr 4, 2018 12:49am Apr 4, 2018 12:49am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} Whats your purpose here Munna? If you want to early close the cycle of TicTac, you can use any version of TicTac. If cycle's first entry was manual then there will be no magic number. So whatever manual entry you will add, it will automatically join the cycle and will close along with other trades. But if your first entry was with another EA (different magic number) then you have to add same magic number in TicTac and it will take care of that. On another note, if you want TicTac to control your losing trade then lot size must be very low....
i just make it cause suppose i hv 4/5 losing trade in a row in same pair which all are almost -200 pips negative now, if i set tictac against all together it need to take big lot for first entry and the profit TP target is so high, there are possibility not to hit ...i made this for handle single ticket if i had 4/5 losing manual trade, set each ticket and close one by one manual trade , not all together....0.50 lot is for micro acc....u can change ur suitable one for first entry
  • #275
  • Apr 4, 2018 2:51am Apr 4, 2018 2:51am
Quoting munna00
{quote} i just make it cause suppose i hv 4/5 losing trade in a row in same pair which all are almost -200 pips negative now, if i set tictac against all together it need to take big lot for first entry and the profit TP target is so high, there are possibility not to hit ...i made this for handle single ticket if i had 4/5 losing manual trade, set each ticket and close one by one manual trade , not all together....0.50 lot is for micro acc....u can change ur suitable one for first entry

Okay got it. Thanks for explanation. I have a question about TicTac Backup plan.

What will be your backup plan if, after you gave control one of your losing trade to TicTac and it went down to 20 cycles? How you will intervene manually to stop this? This is million $ question I could not find answer.
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  • #276
  • Apr 4, 2018 4:28am Apr 4, 2018 4:28am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} Okay got it. Thanks for explanation. I have a question about TicTac Backup plan. What will be your backup plan if, after you gave control one of your losing trade to TicTac and it went down to 20 cycles? How you will intervene manually to stop this? This is million $ question I could not find answer.
Set the gap (25 pips) in between buy and sell so that 20 cycles will never come, market will move one side at least 100 pips daily movement..where it is normal 100 pips movement daily each pair.

though it is more than 10 cycles...correct therm by close some of urs buy and sell trade...suppose 0.14 buy in 5 $ profit and 0.07 sell is 4.55 $ loss...cut both manually
  • #277
  • Apr 4, 2018 9:42am Apr 4, 2018 9:42am
Quoting munna00
{quote} Set the gap (25 pips) in between buy and sell so that 20 cycles will never come, market will move one side at least 100 pips daily movement..where it is normal 100 pips movement daily each pair.

Dear Munna,
Whatever Pips you chose for gap, one day it will cross 20+ cycles. I am using this on real account since month; sometime trades close within same day but most of the times, trades stay open for days and even weekend (thanks God, no swap fee and also low spread). Last weekend, I have manually closed 22 Cycles of EURJPY at the loss of 2100 Euro (all of my month profit gone in single shot).

Quoting munna00
{quote}though it is more than 10 cycles...correct therm by close some of urs buy and sell trade...suppose 0.14 buy in 5 $ profit and 0.07 sell is 4.55 $ loss...cut both manually
It will make the problem even worst. you don't know which direction market will move. if you close .14 and .07 then it will effect the net hedge lot which is really helpful to hit TP. Otherwise you will have to wait for more pips movement. (normally you need 50 pips move after 15 cycles, but if we intervene manually, then you will have to wait for the movement of 70 pips or more maybe).

The bottom line is, this EA is not stress free. I could not sleep many nights. I stay awake to take care of trades or sleep and woke up every 3 hours to see the trades. Feel really panic when EA keep adding cycles and especially in the night, there is no much price movement (despite its JPY pair), wondering what to do.
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  • #278
  • Apr 4, 2018 11:43am Apr 4, 2018 11:43am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} Dear Munna, Whatever Pips you chose for gap, one day it will cross 20+ cycles. I am using this on real account since month; sometime trades close within same day but most of the times, trades stay open for days and even weekend (thanks God, no swap fee and also low spread). Last weekend, I have manually closed 22 Cycles of EURJPY at the loss of 2100 Euro (all of my month profit gone in single shot). {quote} It will make the problem even worst. you don't know which direction market will move. if you close .14 and...
Hi KashifNawaz
If you are making a second or third trade and they show a loss, something is wrong. You had better get out. Watch, wait, and study. It is possible that you may be tired or have troubles or worries - and this will affect your judgement. In this case, there is only one thing to do Get Out , wait and rest. Come back another day - But never become discouraged.
  • #279
  • Apr 5, 2018 1:31am Apr 5, 2018 1:31am
Quoting Zingers
{quote} Hi KashifNawaz If you are making a second or third trade and they show a loss, something is wrong. You had better get out. Watch, wait, and study. It is possible that you may be tired or have troubles or worries - and this will affect your judgement. In this case, there is only one thing to do Get Out , wait and rest. Come back another day - But never become discouraged.

Thanks Zingers for your energetic comment. As I mentioned above, I am trading this on real account since one month. I don't know if any one else doing the same, if yes then still not shared his real results. I traded this everyday and made good pips and trades went 5-6 cycles generally (maximum to 13 cycles). But now consecutive 2 weeks, market stuck in range and cycles crossed 20. I closed manually all and give back my all month's profit to the market.

I believe, the person who used this EA in real account can better understand each and every cycle and aspect of this EA. Did you tried this on real account?

Anyone else?
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  • #280
  • Apr 5, 2018 2:29am Apr 5, 2018 2:29am
Quoting KashifNawaz
{quote} Thanks Zingers for your energetic comment. As I mentioned above, I am trading this on real account since one month. I don't know if any one else doing the same, if yes then still not shared his real results. I traded this everyday and made good pips and trades went 5-6 cycles generally (maximum to 13 cycles). But now consecutive 2 weeks, market stuck in range and cycles crossed 20. I closed manually all and give back my all month's profit to the market. I believe, the person who used this EA in real account can better...
There is two way of generating profit with this ea
1) Profit Trade
2) Pip Rebate

20th cycle will generate a lot of rebate.. make sure you claim it from your introducer broker..
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