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  • #1,241
  • Oct 27, 2017 6:34am Oct 27, 2017 6:34am
Quoting priceaction1
{quote} yes. XM account is/was used for high leverage trade. They were good before but now I need clarification.
Trouble them on chat line. They would probably do something
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  • #1,242
  • Oct 27, 2017 6:45am Oct 27, 2017 6:45am
I did chat with them last night, sand and received e-mail and PM but they still say same things. Now I want to clarify that " XM offer variable spreads with the lower lock at 1.9 but it can as high as the market goes at any given time".
I need to clear this one.
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  • #1,243
  • Oct 27, 2017 6:50am Oct 27, 2017 6:50am
Quoting priceaction1
{quote} yes. ( see https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...2#post10434532) XM account is/was used for high leverage trade. They were good before but now I need clarification.
You're a great trader here on FF
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  • #1,244
  • Oct 27, 2017 7:16am Oct 27, 2017 7:16am
Quoting priceaction1
I did chat with them last night, sand and received e-mail and PM but they still say same things. Now I want to clarify that " XM offer variable spreads with the lower lock at 1.9 but it can as high as the market goes at any given time". I need to clear this one.
Dear priceaction1,

The lowest spread you would typically see on a Micro/Standard account at XM is 1.0 pips - 1.1 pips and the average is 1.7-1.8 pips.

I hope this clarifies all your questions.

Thank you,
  • #1,245
  • Oct 27, 2017 7:22am Oct 27, 2017 7:22am
No it is not clear. I want to know upper side limit i.e XM offer variable spreads with the lower lock at 1.1
but it can as high as the market goes at any given time"
don't predict direction, but dance with flow of water
  • #1,246
  • Oct 27, 2017 7:25am Oct 27, 2017 7:25am
Quoting XM
{quote} Dear priceaction1, The lowest spread you would typically see on a Micro/Standard account at XM is 1.0 pips - 1.1 pips and the average is 1.7-1.8 pips. I hope this clarifies all your questions. Thank you,
wow

lowest= 1.1 to 1.0
average= 1.7-1.8
ok
upper?? is it any limit or it is open, to the market.
in other words whatever XM want it can offer.

[email protected]
don't predict direction, but dance with flow of water
  • #1,247
  • Oct 27, 2017 7:44am Oct 27, 2017 7:44am
Quoting priceaction1
{quote} wow lowest= 1.1 to 1.0 average= 1.7-1.8 ok upper?? is it any limit or it is open, to the market. in other words whatever XM want it can offer. [email protected]
Dear priceaction1,

The upper limit would be whatever the interbank market rate is (plus a markup which is XM's profit margin).

So to explain this even better on our platforms XM reflects the spreads we receive from the Interbank Market (Via our Liquidity Providers) and we add a fixed markup which is our profit.

Let us know if you have any more questions.

Thank you,
  • #1,248
  • Oct 27, 2017 7:59am Oct 27, 2017 7:59am
Thank you very much, XM for clarification. It was the long journey with XM since DEC 2012 but now it is time to go. I get best services from XM before yesterday, but I think I was not treated fairly whatever reason cause this I have to go.
don't predict direction, but dance with flow of water
  • #1,249
  • Edited 8:27am Oct 27, 2017 8:04am | Edited 8:27am
Quoting priceaction1
Thank you very much, XM for clarification. It was the long journey with XM since DEC 2012 but now it is time to go. I get best services from XM before yesterday, but I think I was not treated fairly whatever reason cause this I have to go.
Dear priceaction1,

Although it is your right to trade with the brokerage that makes you feel comfortable, since I personally was the one that checked your trades one by one together with the MT4 Technicians to be quite honest I still cannot understand what it is that has made you unhappy.

Anyhow I have tried my best to reply to all your questions and I hope you have clearly understood my answers.

Let us know if you have any more questions.

Thank you,
  • #1,250
  • Oct 27, 2017 8:17am Oct 27, 2017 8:17am
It's great to have brokers agents who are ready to assist during problems
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  • #1,251
  • Oct 29, 2017 5:04pm Oct 29, 2017 5:04pm
Quoting XM
{quote} Dear ho8628, You have private messaging disabled, please enable it. Thank you,
Hi XM, Thanks for your reply, My private messaging is enable now, please send me your message.
  • #1,252
  • Oct 30, 2017 4:20am Oct 30, 2017 4:20am
Quoting ho8628
{quote} Hi XM, Thanks for your reply, My private messaging is enable now, please send me your message.
Dear ho8628,

We have replied your private message.

If you need any further assistance please feel free to let us know.

Thank you,
  • #1,253
  • Oct 30, 2017 6:07am Oct 30, 2017 6:07am
Why all decent brokers change server's time when DST in Europe ends and XM doesn't?


You people up there don't understand that you create one extra unnecessary bad 1 hour Sunday day on the chart, which spoils the work of all technical indicators?


How hard is it to just shift the server's clock 1 hour ahead without creating any discomfort?
  • #1,254
  • Oct 30, 2017 6:15am Oct 30, 2017 6:15am
Hi XM,

Thanks for your reply.
Is XM global a regulated broker?
  • #1,255
  • Oct 30, 2017 7:40am Oct 30, 2017 7:40am
Quoting Botan626
Why all decent brokers change server's time when DST in Europe ends and XM doesn't? You people up there don't understand that you create one extra unnecessary bad 1 hour Sunday day on the chart, which spoils the work of all technical indicators? How hard is it to just shift the server's clock 1 hour ahead without creating any discomfort?

Dear Botan626,

Your statement above is 101% NOT correct.

To make this is easy as possible for you to understand:

When the end of DST takes place in Europe there is a shifting of sessions for 1 hour since in the US end of DST occurs 1 week later.

Therefore if we did not open trading one hour earlier last night it would be clearly like HIDING trading from our clients for 1 hour.

So if we were to follow your request it would be like cheating for 1 hour and not allowing clients to trade.

To quote your wording “Any decent broker” what you should understand is that in reality “any decent broker would follow the exact pattern XM follows and would open trading 1 hour earlier until DST happens in the US next week”.

Now to summarize: From what I understand your main trouble here is that the settings of your EA’s and Indicators gets distracted but you should understand that you should really get into the habit of adjusting them as adapting to this change is the correct practice.

Not following the pattern XM follows is actually the wrong way to do business.

Thank you,
  • #1,256
  • Oct 30, 2017 7:41am Oct 30, 2017 7:41am
Quoting ho8628
Hi XM, Thanks for your reply. Is XM global a regulated broker?
Dear ho8628,

Yes it is.

Thank you,
  • #1,257
  • Edited 9:26am Oct 30, 2017 8:24am | Edited 9:26am
Quoting XM
{quote} Dear Botan626, Your statement above is 101% NOT correct. To make this is easy as possible for you to understand: When the end of DST takes place in Europe there is a shifting of sessions for 1 hour since in the US end of DST occurs 1 week later. Therefore if we did not open trading one hour earlier last night it would be clearly like HIDING trading from our clients for 1 hour. So if we were to follow your request it would be like cheating for 1 hour and not allowing clients to trade. To quote your wording “Any decent broker” what you should...

My only mistake was that all decent brokers didn't shift the time at all. It was and is UTC +3.


Now re the stupidity you wrote above:

1) "When the end of DST takes place in Europe there is a shifting of sessions for 1 hour since in the US end of DST occurs 1 week later." ---- There is a shifting only

for Frankfurt and London sessions. So why the hell XM shifted it's server time if the Sydney open time remained the same? All this Europe DST ending thing has nothing to do with Sydney and US sessions, hence the open and close time are the same for them for this week!!!

Did you ever open this page??? Try it now and set the clock in the top to GMT +3, as all decent brokers do, you will see the following picture:

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Maybe now you will get it why all decent brokers have GMT +3 at servers time? Here is the tip for you: the trading week has 5 full day candles, all of them start and end at 00:00!


2) "Therefore if we did not open trading one hour earlier last night it would be clearly like HIDING trading from our clients for 1 hour." ---- Are you insane or do you think I am an imbecile who will just eat all the crap you give me?


HIDING trading from our clients for 1 hour ---- Do you have any idea that forex market opens with Sydney session? Not Fr, London, US or whatever?


Are you able to compare two charts by candles? The 1st one is XM's chart and the 2nd one is the chart form a decent broker:

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So do you see any hiding and cheating ffs? And can you see the difference in servers' time?


You gave me utterly stupid and wrong reasons with the same conclusions out of them re the way XM does the things during the time DST ends worldwide.

Register a demo account with GlobalPrime, watch it and learn it.


XM should change the way it does business, not the other way around, and don't try to prove me the opposite with false reasons.
  • #1,258
  • Oct 30, 2017 8:36am Oct 30, 2017 8:36am
Dear Botan626,

Your language is the least to say un-acceptable.

If you cannot understand what I wrote I will let the public decide who is right and who is wrong.

I would be more than happy to assist you further but your language is really un-acceptable.

Let the rest of the traders here try to explain it to you and hopefully you will understand you are wrong.

And for the record on May 13th 2017 you had come back to this exact same forum on this thread -> https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...50#post9655950 and we had explained the exact same thing to you.

Thank you,
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