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  • #46,781
  • Feb 10, 2025 11:15am Feb 10, 2025 11:15am
I had choice between BlueBerry and ATFunded, purchased from the latter.
Their taste/wording/trading rules feels professional.

Let's see how it goes.
  • #46,782
  • Feb 10, 2025 11:52am Feb 10, 2025 11:52am
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big accounts only 59 !

is this only for the first month or also for the subsequent months ?
  • #46,783
  • Feb 10, 2025 12:02pm Feb 10, 2025 12:02pm
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Thanks for clearing that up, it makes sense. And what about having/needing a buffer? They say that no buffer is needed, but then they say once you make a withdrawal the DD limit is set to the initial account balance, so if thats the case a buffer is needed so I don't risk losing the account after I make a withdrawal.
you can trade for 5 days in 50k account, say 550 $. 5 days minimum 100 $. No need of buffer.

Then you do not need to trade for rest of days in the 14 day period.

You can claim 80 % of 550 $ at the end of 14 day period.

This cycle gets repeated.
Intraday only.
  • #46,784
  • Feb 10, 2025 12:04pm Feb 10, 2025 12:04pm
Quoting donfriday
{quote} what happen when you dont make for 1 day? what will happen to the account i have never trade futures before and i dont even know how it work or what assets to trade
simple, you need to make 100 $ minimum for 5 days in a 14 day period to withdraw profit.

You can skip some days if you wish not to trade.
Intraday only.
  • #46,785
  • Feb 10, 2025 1:00pm Feb 10, 2025 1:00pm
@TakisD


is it correct you get better fills on Metatrader than cTrader for the same size ?
  • #46,786
  • Feb 10, 2025 1:21pm Feb 10, 2025 1:21pm
Quoting navk
{quote} you can trade for 5 days in 50k account, say 550 $. 5 days minimum 100 $. No need of buffer. Then you do not need to trade for rest of days in the 14 day period. You can claim 80 % of 550 $ at the end of 14 day period. This cycle gets repeated.
How to understand this rule then?
If you withdraw all profit, then you have nothing left for further trading, the drawdown limit will be zero.
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  • #46,787
  • Feb 10, 2025 1:30pm Feb 10, 2025 1:30pm
Quoting Adriatic
{quote} How to understand this rule then? If you withdraw all profit, then you have nothing left for further trading, the drawdown limit will be zero. {image}
Yes, you need to allow yourself enough buffer AFTER withdrawal if you wish to continue trading. So, yes, they allow you to withdrawal within buffer (some firms DO NOT) and then it is up to you to determine how much buffer to leave.
  • #46,788
  • Feb 10, 2025 1:48pm Feb 10, 2025 1:48pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{image} big accounts only 59 ! is this only for the first month or also for the subsequent months ?
Wow, 60$ for a 300k account. Have they ever done this before because it looks like something a firm would offer when they are about to rugpull.
  • #46,789
  • Feb 10, 2025 1:55pm Feb 10, 2025 1:55pm
Quoting Inception12
{quote} Wow, 60$ for a 300k account. Have they ever done this before because it looks like something a firm would offer when they are about to rugpull.
This is futures prop firm NOT forex. 7500$ drawdown is good but you have to achieve 21K (continuous traling) which is pretty difficult plus PA fees. What makes you think it is good deal and why they would rugpull?
  • #46,790
  • Feb 10, 2025 2:00pm Feb 10, 2025 2:00pm
Has anyone had an interview with the risk management team at 5ers?

I recently passed the 3-stage bootcamp for the 250k account, purchased it, and now they are asking for a risk management interview. Of course, the timeframe they provide is between 10 a.m. and 3 p.m., which overlaps with my working hours, so I have to rearrange my schedule.

I have received a few pay outs from them—only in the five-digit range—over the past few years, and I find this interview request quite frustrating.
  • #46,791
  • Feb 10, 2025 2:35pm Feb 10, 2025 2:35pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
@TakisD is it correct you get better fills on Metatrader than cTrader for the same size ?
No, fills are determined by the software + liquidity.

Ctrader advocates like to pimp out ctrader because they think there is no slippage there but if there is no slippage it is fake. Ctrader have changed a bit but originally they had two options B book and A book. B book was a fake feed with unlimited depth, A book would make you feel dizzy. I believe its been solved with vwap now.
  • #46,792
  • Feb 10, 2025 3:06pm Feb 10, 2025 3:06pm
Quoting sheva89
Has anyone had an interview with the risk management team at 5ers? I recently passed the 3-stage bootcamp for the 250k account, purchased it, and now they are asking for a risk management interview. Of course, the timeframe they provide is between 10 a.m. and 3 p.m., which overlaps with my working hours, so I have to rearrange my schedule. I have received a few pay outs from them—only in the five-digit range—over the past few years, and I find this interview request quite frustrating.
I remember someone had a interview with 5ers some weeks ago i think, after the interview they paid and he continues to trade, nothing to worry about i think
  • #46,793
  • Feb 10, 2025 3:29pm Feb 10, 2025 3:29pm
Quoting Adriatic
{quote} How to understand this rule then? If you withdraw all profit, then you have nothing left for further trading, the drawdown limit will be zero. {image}
This is what I was saying, they say that no buffer is needed but thats false, because if you withdraw all your profit your Max DD is set to initial account balance and then you risk losing the account so a buffer is required. Their wording is confusing and needs better clarity.

To not risk losing the account I think it would be good to build up a 2-3% buffer that way you can withdraw safely and not risk losing the account. In a way it's like doing a 2 step evaluation, yes you get "funded" after passing the 1 step evaluation, but you still need to build the buffer to withdraw (2nd step).
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #46,794
  • Edited 6:29pm Feb 10, 2025 5:52pm | Edited 6:29pm
Quoting Adriatic
{quote} How to understand this rule then? If you withdraw all profit, then you have nothing left for further trading, the drawdown limit will be zero. {image}
yes, MFFu and Futures elite allow withdrawals before buffer is made.

Once a withdrawal is made the account balance resets to starting balance.

Though, MFFU and Futures elite allows withdrawal, it is always better on traders part to have buffer to continue trading.

Having said, many traders look at this way.

I invested 99 dollars. My return ( withdrawal ) is 3k.

Futures firms differ from fx firms

Those who look for longivity, keep buffer equivalent to MLL.

Example , if my MLL for 100k account is 3.4k, i earn 3.4k first, and then withdraw excess amount over and above 3.4k
Intraday only.
  • #46,795
  • Feb 10, 2025 9:42pm Feb 10, 2025 9:42pm
Hi guys, has anyone tried instant funding programs in prop firms? I saw there are some prop firms providing instant funding, like Blue Guardian, FundingPips. Are they having problems with payouts? Thanks
  • #46,796
  • Feb 10, 2025 11:28pm Feb 10, 2025 11:28pm
Quoting hahaha
Hi guys, has anyone tried instant funding programs in prop firms? I saw there are some prop firms providing instant funding, like Blue Guardian, FundingPips. Are they having problems with payouts? Thanks
those firms are shady tou better with ftmo, the5ers or tradeify if tou want instant funding accounts
  • #46,797
  • Feb 11, 2025 2:16am Feb 11, 2025 2:16am
Quoting Novazor
{quote} those firms are shady tou better with ftmo, the5ers or tradeify if tou want instant funding accounts
Thanks for your reply!
  • #46,798
  • Feb 11, 2025 5:46am Feb 11, 2025 5:46am
Quoting solarpower
I had choice between BlueBerry and ATFunded, purchased from the latter. Their taste/wording/trading rules feels professional. Let's see how it goes.

I agree 110%,

keep us updated !
  • #46,799
  • Feb 11, 2025 7:42am Feb 11, 2025 7:42am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} I agree 110%, keep us updated !
Yes, you are right. I should keep my actions updated for personal accountability purposes as I already overtraded the account.
  • #46,800
  • Feb 11, 2025 11:42am Feb 11, 2025 11:42am
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Blueberry on my blacklist. They now have announced they are a casino by launching a scam coin for serious traders.
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