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  • #23,821
  • Oct 7, 2023 5:06pm Oct 7, 2023 5:06pm
Quoting turnip15
{quote} Spark plug for a Deisel engine?
Thats a relief. Thought I may need to cleanse my browsing history Glow node FFS!
  • #23,822
  • Oct 7, 2023 5:11pm Oct 7, 2023 5:11pm
Quoting Takisd
I do find it interesting that when you make a prop firm offering, people generally look at it whether it will work (you will be number 1) or it would work (you will be 0). Never really in between.
-I hope that I did not give you this impression. I think that there may be much room for varying degrees of success, depending on the approach, but that without knowing the details of what you have in mind, it may be difficult to discern what that might look like, especially since the nature of the model that you are proposing would presumably depend very heavily on the quality of your algorithm and how that data is utilized etc.. I can only guess about that, though.

My intention was to share my initial thoughts, including potential challenges that you might face with that. I hope that my comments do not dissuade you or anyone else. I advocate for any positive change that can bring about solutions to the remote prop space. I believe that there is a great need for such services and that much benefit that can be garnered from it, even if I, and those that are similarly unfortunate, cannot participate.
  • #23,823
  • Edited 6:54pm Oct 7, 2023 5:44pm | Edited 6:54pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Lark Funding is the relative winner after 5ers, but I do not understand that. They have a garbage offer. The score is very bad. The Score is around 1 on their 3 step offers. And the other offers have trailing max. drawdown, which makes it more difficult to pass. So there is no value to other standard offers around the retail prop biz. You need to take this list therefore with some salt. You cannot believe everything you see on that table. My two cents.
Lark's % is high but it's not a big change in totals m/m. Keep in mind this is just web traffic and as takisd mentioned, there is some bot traffic in there too with certain props...You need increased traffic to increase sales and we all know where the money is coming from. That being said, it's not 1:1.
  • #23,824
  • Oct 7, 2023 6:14pm Oct 7, 2023 6:14pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Jeez, you need to look at the profit goals to meet here. You need to flip two times first. So the score is less than 1. This is like daylight robbery and pure crime. You can also give me $100 bucks and I will exchange it with $50 at once. This is sure loss. Better you trade on personal account here instead of this offer. This prop is criminal.
Only program I would consider with the 5%ers is high stakes, which has a very good score. I was simply commenting that overall, as a company, seems they are doing some things right. Level 2 data from nasdaq..... sounds credible anyway.
  • #23,825
  • Oct 7, 2023 6:25pm Oct 7, 2023 6:25pm
Quoting Tobiazzek
{quote} Alpha capital group, very reliable and many poeple here have good things to say about them. Also TradeDay when it comes to futures.
I didn't include firms <100K in monthly traffic. ACG & Tradeday were below that amount.
  • #23,826
  • Oct 7, 2023 6:54pm Oct 7, 2023 6:54pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} I didn't include firms <100K in monthly traffic. ACG & Tradeday were below that amount.
ACG way above 100K according to

https://www.similarweb.com/website/a...p.uk/#overview
  • #23,827
  • Oct 7, 2023 6:57pm Oct 7, 2023 6:57pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} ACG way above 100K according to https://www.similarweb.com/website/a...p.uk/#overview
Simweb includes too much fake bot traffic.
  • #23,828
  • Oct 7, 2023 7:15pm Oct 7, 2023 7:15pm
What is the consensus on darwinex's zero program?

They seem legit + it makes sense how the money is made over the long term & they accept US citizens. I'm guessing it will take 8-10 months to build a track record that can attract enough investor capital to be worth the effort. I might just simply copy trade to it and see what happens.
  • #23,829
  • Oct 8, 2023 12:10am Oct 8, 2023 12:10am
Alright people update from last week …

1. bespoke - phase 2 (.5%) positive
2. Fxify - phase 1 (5%) positive
3. Fundednext - phase 1 (1%) negative….


now i am planning to buy only 2 challenges this week .. FTMO 2 x 200k .. that will be it .. until i pass some or lose all. Dont want to handle too many accounts as i dont copy and do manual trading…..
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #23,830
  • Oct 8, 2023 12:19am Oct 8, 2023 12:19am
Quoting Fagin
{quote} Darwinex have been working on this for years and they nearly got there. However they have a massive but very obvious blind spot which I find remarkable they haven't covered and can only put it down to arrogance... endemic in this industry.
Can you elaborate on the ' blind spot '? It seems that all orders on Darwinex live accounts are sent to liquidity providers.
  • #23,831
  • Oct 8, 2023 1:01am Oct 8, 2023 1:01am
Quoting montygoldy
Alright people update from last week … 1. bespoke - phase 2 (.5%) positive 2. Fxify - phase 1 (5%) positive 3. Fundednext - phase 1 (1%) negative…. now i am planning to buy only 2 challenges this week .. FTMO 2 x 200k .. that will be it .. until i pass some or lose all. Dont want to handle too many accounts as i dont copy and do manual trading…..
Oi mate. Keep that iphone warm. Dont forget the pool parties to keep those trades going. Personally im waiting for the next cool pics CEO of Bespoke gives on social media. I just cannot wait. The more cool those pics are, well I might yea not be able to control myself and.
  • #23,832
  • Oct 8, 2023 2:07am Oct 8, 2023 2:07am
Quoting CableJ
What is the consensus on darwinex's zero program? They seem legit + it makes sense how the money is made over the long term & they accept US citizens. I'm guessing it will take 8-10 months to build a track record that can attract enough investor capital to be worth the effort. I might just simply copy trade to it and see what happens.
Forget the zero programme, just open a live cash account instead. Achieves the same thing and saves you the subscription fee which is nonsense.

You won't get a lambo out of it, more like an e scooter.
worth it for passive income and interest in something different though....
  • #23,833
  • Oct 8, 2023 2:56am Oct 8, 2023 2:56am
Quoting Fagin
{quote} Forget the zero programme, just open a live cash account instead. Achieves the same thing and saves you the subscription fee which is nonsense. You won't get a lambo out of it, more like an e scooter. worth it for passive income and interest in something different though....
100%
Fugazi....
  • #23,834
  • Oct 8, 2023 3:05am Oct 8, 2023 3:05am
Quoting HengkiTjen
{quote} 100% Fugazi....
Ha! Good word!
  • #23,835
  • Oct 8, 2023 3:08am Oct 8, 2023 3:08am
Quoting ladder
{quote} Can you elaborate on the ' blind spot '? It seems that all orders on Darwinex live accounts are sent to liquidity providers.
From your cash account I do believe so. The copy account... no way.

The blind spot has value which I won't divulge. Sorry.
  • #23,836
  • Oct 8, 2023 3:38am Oct 8, 2023 3:38am
Quoting CableJ
{quote} Simweb includes too much fake bot traffic.
which tool you use for measuring traffic ?
  • #23,837
  • Oct 8, 2023 3:43am Oct 8, 2023 3:43am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} That's too bad. I'm a few dollars away from passing an FXIFY One-Step. Even if I get through the KYC I guess I'll never get paid anyway.
Passed FXIFY one step tonight using the min 5 days. Didn't realize you could trade Bitcoin over the weekend. Got KYJelly verified now the saga begins. If/when I get funded credentials. Their FAQ makes it sound like it's linked to DEEL.
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  • #23,838
  • Oct 8, 2023 7:59am Oct 8, 2023 7:59am
Quoting Takisd
I do find it interesting that when you make a prop firm offering, people generally look at it whether it will work (you will be number 1) or it would work (you will be 0). Never really in between. I have been toying with the idea as well of creating a data factory, thousands of demo traders producing data that is based on a set of rules but not identical in order to fuel machine learning. It wouldn't be appealing to those in first world countries as the earning initially would be small but it would be a good living for those in a part of the world...
I don't look into that way (if that work or not work), unless I see something that I suspect that is a scam or causing a prop not to be profitable (I would be suspicious if some prop came with 100% payout since the beginning, for example).

In fact I don't even have knowledge to know if that would work or not. That's the prop owner business, not mine. I just look at the offer and decide if that would work out for me or not.

Btw, the offer a prop makes will also have a bias on the kind of flow they will get. What I mean is that the sample you have in your hands is also depended on the kind of offer that generated it. You probably can't raise conclusion based in that sample for a radical different offer.
  • #23,839
  • Oct 8, 2023 8:07am Oct 8, 2023 8:07am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Passed FXIFY one step tonight using the min 5 days. Didn't realize you could trade Bitcoin over the weekend. Got KYJelly verified now the saga begins. If/when I get funded credentials. Their FAQ makes it sound like it's linked to DEEL. {image}
For what I see in Telegram credentials are still flowing in 24/48 hours. Payouts are the issue right now.
  • #23,840
  • Oct 8, 2023 8:11am Oct 8, 2023 8:11am
Apparently Bespoke issued a payout certificate and didn't pay. Then blocked the traders in all channels. I would like to see their side of the story. Anyway, nobody should issue a fake certificate if that is not paid.
https://twitter.com/Princekrsangwan/...64830541341073
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