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No it's nothing to do with narcissism because you're making the case that any idiot can see the US won because 80 refiners destroyed and yada yada. So I'm calling your bluff: let's see how many think your claim makes any sense.

Otherwise, who cares about votes. I have a stupid username so I'm not trying to build a persona here. Just killing time while market watching.

"my claim"

Could you go online and search what and what Iran has lost in these war.

Just do that and leave me alone, okay

What Iran has lost isn't the issue. You are claiming that losing "80 this and that" means they lost the war. Not only does your claim make no sense, but no one agrees with you. Why do you keep thinking you are right?

No. Whichever way he kicked the can, that stupid constitution would stay. If it wasn't his fagface son, it would be another douche bag replacing him.
And if you are no expert on regime change, maybe let the big boys with their capable armies take care of the trash instead of constantly cutting them down in service to cult authoritarianism.

By big boys do you mean the Bozo, Bumpkin and Bimbo brigade?

I don't know what you're trying to accomplish on here but if you're trying to kookify the pro-war crowd, you're doing a great job. The regime must be happy that their critics look more unhinged than they are.

When fighting monsters one must be careful not to become a monster.

I don't know who your nicknames are for but maybe you could spare some for the killers in the regime that you are defending....lol of course you aren't going to call them anything derogatory.

By big boys I meant USA. Do you know of any other big boys that you respect and is willing to end the tyranny of the regime's cult? I doubt it and if you did, you would be disapproving of them too.

Yes, be careful not to become a monster protecting the regime of the mullahs...unless it's too late for you already.

I think the best course of action was not to do anything. In fact, the US meddling in the mideast is likely the cause of all this. So simply doing nothing is more detriment to the regime than sending the big boys to make the situation 100x worse.

So, ironically, that makes YOU the supporter of the regime lol

So you were happy with Obama and Biden type that did nothing. In your view that was so good to do nothing for 47 years until the regime got this strong. I mean you don't even have to say it. I already know you want the regime left alone so it can take over as many destabilized countries as it can.

No, the regime can't afford to buy toilet paper to wipe its ass let alone having become 100 times stronger. That's only your wet dreams talking.

Put this in your AI prompt "Can a case be made that US meddling is ultimately the cause of the general upheaval in the middle east?"

A case is frequently made that United States "meddling"—ranging from Cold War-era covert operations to massive 21st-century military invasions—is a primary cause of upheaval in the Middle East. Proponents of this view argue that U.S. actions have repeatedly destabilized sovereign nations and created power vacuums that extremist groups have filled.

Arguments for U.S. Meddling as a Primary Cause

Regime Change and Instability: The 1953 CIA-backed coup in Iran toppled a democratically elected government, fostering long-term anti-American sentiment that culminated in the 1979 Revolution. More recently, the 2003 invasion of Iraq dismantled the state apparatus, leading to sectarian civil war and the rise of ISIS.

Military Interventions: Ongoing military actions, such as current strikes and blockades against Iran (as of May 2026), have been criticized for crippling infrastructure and spiking global energy prices, which critics argue perpetuates a "downward spiral of crises".

Support for Authoritarianism: To ensure the free flow of oil and contain rivals like the Soviet Union, the U.S. has historically supported repressive regimes, which critics say has stifled democratic movements and fueled domestic resentment.

Double Standards: Perceived bias in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and "double-dealing" during the Iran-Iraq War are cited as factors that have prolonged regional conflicts and undermined U.S. credibility.

So the big boys who caused it are going to fix it? You have your enemies mixed up. Gotta love the irony.

I did you one better:

can a case be made that iran meddling is ultimately the cause of the general upheaval in the middle east?"

A strong case can be made that Iranian "meddling"—defined as the cultivation of a transnational proxy network (the "Axis of Resistance")—is a central driver of instability in the Middle East. However, analyzing this as the sole cause is complex, as it operates within a broader, pre-existing environment of sectarian division, weak state institutions, and competing foreign interests.

As of early 2026, the region is experiencing a major war involving direct conflict between Iran, Israel, and the U.S., with Iran's actions—including drone and missile strikes—extending from the Strait of Hormuz to Europe.Here is an analysis of the case for and against Iran as the primary cause of regional upheaval:

The Case for Iran as the Primary Driver expansionist Proxy Network:

Iran has cultivated a network of armed groups in Lebanon (Hezbollah), Iraq, Syria, and Yemen (Houthis) that undermine central governments. These proxies are used to "keep conflict away from Iranian soil" while weakening regional adversaries.

State-Sponsored Instability:

The U.S. State Department has labeled Iran a top state sponsor of terrorism. Iran is accused of weaponizing these groups to sabotage diplomatic efforts and attack U.S. and regional interests.

Sectarian and Asymmetric Warfare:
Iran is accused of deepening sectarian divides by backing Shia militias to destabilize Sunni-led governments.Direct Conflict Aggravation: As of March 2026, Iran’s strategy involves using its proxy network to launch massed attacks against neighboring countries, including the UAE, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia, widening the conflict.Factors Complicating the "Sole Cause" Argument while Iran is a major actor, it is not the only source of conflict:

Regional Power Struggles:

Other regional actors, such as Turkey and Israel, are also deeply involved in regional security issues, and Saudi Arabia has previously taken an aggressive role.

Domestic Drivers:

Many conflicts in the region (Iraq, Syria, Yemen) stem from severe internal political, economic, and sectarian issues that pre-date or exist independently of Iranian intervention, such as those that sparked regional protests and the 2025–2026 unrest in Iran itself.

The 2003 Iraq Invasion:

The U.S.-led invasion of Iraq is often cited as the turning point that removed a key counterweight to Iran, creating a power vacuum that allowed Tehran to expand its influence significantly.

Shift in Regional Perception:

As of early 2026, some analysts argue that the primary source of regional instability has shifted away from Iran toward an expansionist, aggressive Israel following its strikes on Hamas leaders in Qatar.

Evolution of the Conflict (2026 Context)Fragmenting Influence:

By 2026, Iran's proxy architecture in Iraq has shifted from consolidated influence to fragmented survivalism, with militias often pursuing local interests rather than the strategic directives of Tehran.

Direct War Consequences:

Following the 2026 Iran war—including the death of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei—Iran’s regional standing was severely damaged. While Iran remains a major actor, its capacity to project power has been reduced.

Conclusion:

Iran’s proactive, often aggressive, foreign policy is a primary driver of the current, acute instability in the Middle East. However, it operates in a volatile environment characterized by a "Hobbesian" state of mutual vulnerability, where other state and non-state actors also bear responsibility for regional tensions.

Yes but the US is that cause of the regime and all the regime did.

The "Original Sin": The 1953 Coup

Many scholars trace the roots of the current regime back to Operation Ajax in 1953.

The Overthrow: The CIA and British intelligence orchestrated a coup to topple the democratically elected Prime Minister, Mohammad Mosaddegh, after he nationalized Iran’s oil industry.

Restoring the Shah: The coup returned Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi to power as an absolute monarch. For the next 25 years, he ruled with significant U.S. support, using his secret police (SAVAK) to repress political dissent.

Consequences: This intervention delegitimized the Shah in the eyes of many Iranians, who came to view him as a "Western puppet". This resentment directly fueled the anti-American character of the 1979 uprising.

The 1979 Revolution and its Aftermath

The current theocratic regime was established in 1979 after mass protests forced the Shah to flee.

Rise of Khomeini: Ayatollah Khomeini utilized the widespread anti-U.S. sentiment to consolidate power, branding the United States as the "Great Satan".U.S.

Miscalculation: Documents suggest the Carter administration was initially divided and failed to anticipate the total collapse of the Shah's government. Some recent analyses suggest the U.S. even engaged in secret contacts with Khomeini's camp in an attempt to ensure a "soft landing" and prevent a communist takeover, though these efforts ultimately failed to prevent the rise of a hostile theocracy.

Permanent Hostility: The Iran Hostage Crisis (1979–1981) cemented the adversarial relationship that defines U.S.-Iran relations to this day.

Current Dynamics (as of May 2026)

In the current landscape, the U.S. remains deeply involved in attempting to influence or destabilize the regime through "maximum pressure" campaigns and military strikes. However, some analysts argue that these external pressures—including recent U.S.-Israeli strikes that killed senior leaders—have paradoxically helped the regime consolidate power around hardline elements rather than causing it to collapse.

The 1979 revolution was a reset, so forget anything prior to that.
The revolution's purpose was not to bring Khomeini to power. He was only a spiritual leader. He had no clue about Iran. He spent most of his life in Iraq and could hardly speak a few Persian words.
I have mentioned this many times including to you but you choose to keep a deaf ear. After the revolution, the army which was in charge of the country said that they are not in the business of running the country band need an interim caretaker to hold the various ministries of the Shah 's government until a proper democratic election could be held. The mullas that hadn't been jailed or killed by the Shah cause they were fat ass freeloaders stepped forward and said we are the men of God, we can be trusted to keep the government until a president is elected. The army agreed.
The mullas immediately fired all management of all the ministries of the government and replaced them with mullahs. They then confiscated all sorts of companies and industries and put it under their own names.
Then when people elected a nine mullah president , all the mulla run ministries and the companies and industries that they now owned went in strike because they didn't like the president elected by the vast majority of Iranians.
His presidency collapsed and because of death threats from mullas, he fled.
Then the mullas still in charge, declared that they were going to only let the candidates they chose to run for president.
That was how the mullas illicitly hijacked the revolution and since then they have done nothing but kill people to keep their power.
As such, the purpose of the revolution was convoluted resulting in the creation of the most abusive theocratic terror state of possibly the history of mankind. And here we are today.
THE END.

The way I understand it is the US put the Shah in power who was overthrown and then the US backed Khomeini to prevent a communist take over instead, so the current regime is a direct consequence of the US meddling. You keep blaming the effect rather than the cause. The real terrorist is the US. The destabilizing war now is more of the same.

What happened to the rest of the thread? Can you see it? Looks like a lot of replies are missing.