[/I][/SIZE]well breakout traders and orderflow traders are much in the same one just doesnt understand exactly why I guess. sure you can youll just need to make sure its at a S&R zone watch the orderbook and wait for the break. areas of imbalance is ...

Support and Resistance Trading Simplified

I use stops all the times.. do I think theyll stop hunt me .. no not at all institutions simply target the amount of orders they are trying to simply move price not say lets take out these guys then these guys ... they are just trying to create some ...

Stating The Obvious and The Quest For Wisdom

Any market order that comes in has to either have an Idea of a stop whether its a placed limit order or its a planned market order area or they dont use a stop. So if you have a bunch of market orders lets say at different times trying to discover ...

Stating The Obvious and The Quest For Wisdom

the quote of the rail gun thing is just something i remembered that can help the visualization of what im saying im not saying trading is like warfare you missed the point.. the point was why predict the flow to continue or reverse only trade what ...

Stating The Obvious and The Quest For Wisdom

dunno if I should be offended by this or not seems directed im just pondering randomness and rules of random chart making.

S/R and TL on Randomized Price Movement

this will probably keep me awake tonight.

S/R and TL on Randomized Price Movement

i agree but your statement i dont have the ability to compute all the factors involved.. what about in trading .. we dont does that make it fall under random?

S/R and TL on Randomized Price Movement

news its best to know what news is coming out most is BS and you never know how it will be taken but you will no when the spread widens and the order flow changes.. so unless its news that is Extremely important.. then continue to trade the flow it ...

Support and Resistance Trading Simplified

is the lottery really random.. you are limited between certain balls.. and the weight of the balls im sure matter and the smoothness of the exterior. and the speed of the wind that hits the ball and the trajectory that the ball enters the holding ...

S/R and TL on Randomized Price Movement

I base on a level of getting taken out? so im guessing you mean i set a stop order a limit order to get in and an target order?.. so if price is breaking out short im selling because the breakout was short.. but right if it is a break out and it is ...

Stating The Obvious and The Quest For Wisdom

but how . how can anything be truly random.. even those few.. they have got to think of a number to generate it and must have something to rely on im not computer expert but if it was me trying to be completely random and generate something from ...

S/R and TL on Randomized Price Movement

hahaha

S/R and TL on Randomized Price Movement

but can anything actually be random i mean truly random? if everything is managed by rules how can anything be random. I mean I guess like in physics like someone cant just be raptured out of panera bread one day.. like mass is not created or ...

S/R and TL on Randomized Price Movement

yeah and i guess no one ponders why we think a machine "randomly" generating numbers doesnt actually fall in a sequence.. rather than being truely random no do they... machines are based on rules and rules must be followed in linear fashion so how ...

S/R and TL on Randomized Price Movement

btw please dont go out and start buying or selling every break because we havent covered enough to understand the large imbalance places yet this is work in progress..

Support and Resistance Trading Simplified

well I would suggest a couple of things.. generally price will float around a center for the majority of the time slowly crawling and moving youll notice slightly larger orders and then youll notice if you do premarket analysis like support and ...

Stating The Obvious and The Quest For Wisdom

I believe that this is also why the first break is the most volatile. because the mass of all the pending orders incombination with all the impatient traders limit orders. the most massive area for price discovery would be the suprise for traders ...

Stating The Obvious and The Quest For Wisdom

well I think I understand what you mean we refer to this as price discovery .. trying to discover where price wants to go .. there are patient traders and impatient traders. impatient traders seek to discover the order cluster and patient traders ...

Stating The Obvious and The Quest For Wisdom

we are talking about true orderflow in another thread also not mine but in an effort not to type more im gonna post this about central market microstructure url and another about institutional order books url price discovery and market orders ...

Support and Resistance Trading Simplified

yes yeah

Support and Resistance Trading Simplified