That frequently happens before big announcements. Many people sitting in positions don't want to take on the event risk so they cover. Liquidity starts to dry up around this time too, so even small ($20-50m) trades can cause big movement. Depending ...

What moves the market?

Getting close. From here on out, every time you start a senseless arguement with someone I'll be directing them to this thread. When you have nobody left to feed your ego, I imagine you'll move on. Then I will be happy.

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This was my point exactly. Mr. Terminator basically said that witchazel and I were complete idiots for not understanding that the edge derived from the turtle system could ONLY be captured through diversification. As you have pointed out this is ...

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So now all trend systems need diversification? And you still haven't pointed out where we can find this diversification requirement for the turtles. I'll give you that it needs to be in many markets to capture the best moves, but that is very ...

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So then you CAN provide the exact location of the diversification requirement in the turtle trading method document?

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Should I assume you agree with my synopsis then?

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So really what this post says is that you can't find anything about diversification being required to make a profit from the turtle method. Wouldn't that confirm that you were blatently wrong in your assessment of the rules and yet you are incapable ...

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Maybe your grasp of english isn't so good. Let me point out what you missed The best I can gather from the text is that they traded multiple markets to increase yield Please show us where in the turtle rules it says that the only way the system ...

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Exactly.

Seriously, do forex systems have to be so complex?

Just for giggles I dug up the trading method. Maybe you could enlighten us exactly where in the text it describes the need for diversification. The best I can gather from the text is that they traded multiple markets to increase yield, not so that ...

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I'm not saying it has been said, I'm asking the question. If nobody is going to use the information, why share it at all?

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zaq I get what your saying. I'm posing the related question to determine what purpose this thread serves. If most people gain no benefit, why share in the first place? If there is no purpose in sharing, what insight are we gaining by debating the ...

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Right, so if nobody benefits from the sharing either way, why have a discussion about sharing in the first place?

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Somewhat. If there is no point in sharing a system because traders will only seek to screw it up, why have a discussion about the impact of sharing a system at all? What difference does it make if a system gets shared?

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Then why bother having this discussion at all?

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The reason I won't share MY method has several components. First of all, regardless of what anyone has to say about it, I KNOW that divulging the rules would render it inoperable. Some things just cannot survive when hundreds of millions in ...

Why "x" a secret?

Whats interesting is that once the turtle method was released, the turtle soup method was designed to exploit the known rules of the turtle method. Turtle soup was the REASON turtle method stopped working.

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Fair enough, I was a bit mean. It just gets on my nerves how often misinformation is handed out as gospel on this forum by people with zero experience. Maybe I'm just becoming jaded with the whole forum experience...

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If you want to advocate that giving away beer doesn't cost the giver anything, yes you do. OK, so $833B of the $2.5T in volume runs on EUR/USD. Dividing the remaining volume evenly over the other 6 majors, dividing it across the entire daily range, ...

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Funny how the people arguing the case for sharing a system have been around for less then 6 months and have nothing of their own to give away. FYI, even $3tril per day in total forex volume has to be divided across the 130 or so tradable pairs, ...

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