may be why we no longer see them on Vic's chart.....

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Ej — What do you think about taking this Ej long if 1h ts/ks cross? seems like maybe wait on a retrace and a divergence candle since its shot up so much? Steve

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yes; 5 candles prior lower and the divergent candle closed in the red. Only negative is Vic suggests using this formation on 1h or higher charts though he said he hadn't tested on lower TF's so it could work fine. anyway, it has been rejected and ...

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Happy: will have to get a copy and read it. Sounds like I'd learn alot. Thanks for sharing an important part of trading. Steve

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The 4h is rangebound. All is very equal and balanced. This could mean any direction can break. Or something big will break. Steve

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I"m going to follow Vic; He doesn't have fractals on his chart...you don't need the indy to spot them though; the Divergence candle seems to be his choice now and its mine too till I can make this my own. Steve

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Hi Dave: Welcome! Fractals don't repaint. However, after a fractal appears its not valid until 2 candles latter. If price breaks above the fractal point then the indicator disappears. Fractals are a standard indy included with MT4; go to insert, ...

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with 4h kijun-sen rising and flat kumo beside it I'd guess its not going down very far. Steve

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Vic: Is Gu thin 1h and 4h kumo the biggest clue that price might be more likely to break thru than bounce back down? Also, I now see 1h Senkou Span A is above B. We've had a neutral 1h ts/ks cross up. Finally 1h chikou span is above price. What do ...

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we use sinners- definition for Divergence candle; after 5 candles in a row lower than a candle making a new high, that's a divergence candle. Opposite for a low. Fractal is a candle making a new high with 2 candles to both its right and left lower. ...

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Man, that's easy.................glad I have my old charts back with chikou span and my little signal indy in right hand corner. If you are still feeling like giving, please give us a trade you are waiting for and I think I'll have seen all I need ...

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Thanks Vic: Man, your good....generous too! This was an eye opener. I'm started now. Will look for these patterns with more confidence now. I've read Bill Williams and traded his alligator divergent bars well but had no one to help me along the way. ...

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Please show us some charts Vic. Only going to follow what you teach for now and need to see some trend and counter...I want to jump in too. Thanks, Steve

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lbtrader: Thanks for your nice comparison. How do you decide which chikou span points to use on the way up? You caught most of the down points for a trendline but didn't use any uptrendlines till the trade was in big profit. How do you know to ...

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See post 4840

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From DIMENSION pfd: "6.Never enter a position from 1Hr against the Kumo unless it is taken on a signal from 4Hrs." Does this mean you can enter against kumo on 4h? Steve

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hi ab: See post 4840 for Vic's Dimension which is easy; he found divergent candles after 5 candles moving in same direction in a row can be traded against the 4h and day trend...but only if strong S/R caused a bounce or can become a magnet to draw ...

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! — Lightbulb came on Vic. Having read both threads many times during last few weeks helped me put this together with ichi for a double whamee! BAM! It is so easy. My forex education was on overload and I hit the wall last night when you ...

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vic: your kindness is so much appreciated. I'm just a slow learner. Tomorrow I'll have time to figure out the simplicity of it. Part of my problem is changing methods. I'm so guilty of jumping from method to method that I felt negative about this ...

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For now I better stick to page 1 method till I understand Vic's use of divergence candle better. I do well trading the chaos method of Bill Williams using divergence candles which have been well defined for years; I consider Sinner's revision to it ...

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