I think it does when newbs are trying to decide which aspect of trading to concentrate their efforts on. I was lucky enough to find a method that was proved to me that it worked beyond a shadow of a doubt, unfortunately it took years for me to make ...

Where is the EDGE in trading? The most important thing in trading!

good post

Where is the EDGE in trading? The most important thing in trading!

doesn't that mean of the 10% of winning traders 90% are using TA? Just playing games here. 90% blah blah is all hearsay anyway. There are plenty of TA traders on FF making money. If you cannot do it you need to ask yourself why. P.S. when I said do ...

Where is the EDGE in trading? The most important thing in trading!

I wrote a long reply to explain why you are wrong. Then I decided to delete it. You do the thousands of hours research yourself.

Where is the EDGE in trading? The most important thing in trading!

I can prove it, I do day in day out with the guys I trade with. Do your own due dilligence.

Where is the EDGE in trading? The most important thing in trading!

Four years and you still cannot see any exploitable recurring patterns on charts that we have data for 20 years and over in many cases. YOU have not been looking hard enough. It is there in front of your eyes, naked charts, no indis, candles or bars ...

Where is the EDGE in trading? The most important thing in trading!

Wise words. I would also like to add that contrary to what resres says , there are plenty of people here on FF making real money using pa / ta, some have given real results and some have proved beyond doubt (for me anyway) that they are profitable ...

Where is the EDGE in trading? The most important thing in trading!

Not james16 at all, my own, "jag1966", it only took 5 years to perfect and it's a hotch potch of pring, trader vic, EW, mp, ta, pa and bits borrowed from some great pa traders here and on other forex forums.

Where is the EDGE in trading? The most important thing in trading!

Frying is spot on, Resres you are wrong — Resres you just need to work harder to make PA work. Everything Frying said is true he gets my vouch.

Where is the EDGE in trading? The most important thing in trading!

Haha, a tip is a chart, precise entry exit and explanation of exactly why. Sorry but you are nowhere near that.

Price action is dumb, and you're lazy for thinking otherwise

The fact is you started this debate in the wrong way. You got peoples backs up that normally wouldn't react the way they did to you (me included). It will do you good to learn from that. You created an unecessary problem and now you cannot deal with ...

Price action is dumb, and you're lazy for thinking otherwise

The market speaks every day.

Price action is dumb, and you're lazy for thinking otherwise

Nice post MJ, us dumb PA traders trade charts as if it were "groundhog day" every day.

Price action is dumb, and you're lazy for thinking otherwise

Very nice post, one of the best I have read in a long time, thanks. I ONLY follow the big money.

Price action is dumb, and you're lazy for thinking otherwise

Haha funny u mentioned porn, cos I was taking a walk at 8am listening to the traffic noise of everyone else starting work for the day, I'd made three winning trades and already finished my trading for the day (two hours work) and was thinking that ...

Price action is dumb, and you're lazy for thinking otherwise

What he actually said in the title and opening post was PRICE ACTION is dumb, no mention of MAs or indis of any sort. Like others have said PA drives indis, I don't need any indis now but I do accept that they can be used as a vague idea what the ...

Price action is dumb, and you're lazy for thinking otherwise

Yep agreed the sad thing is that newbs don't need all this mis-information and dis-information. There are so many people that try to do good here and it is totally ruined by the idiots trying to be clever.

Price action is dumb, and you're lazy for thinking otherwise

He has said he wouldn't share his methods yet he and others like you expect everyone else to spoon feed you years of our hard work for free. He said every TA trader he spoke with couldn't explain why their method worked, HE hasn't been speaking to ...

Price action is dumb, and you're lazy for thinking otherwise