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Old Apr 13, 2010 11:25am
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A possible touch trade.
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Check these beauty people.

Just 12 mins............
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Check these beauty people.

Just 12 mins............
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Ok.

Now one more PB here and..........
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Old Apr 14, 2010 3:32am
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I'd be careful with EJ...daily bias is long up to next TL, PPz and fib confluence, 4HR breakout of inner TL and resistance. A break above of 127.53 or below 127.11 would give me a long or short bias on the 1H...just my opinion of course

What can i say LJ. It's all probabilities we play. Can't be sure of anything.
Anyways lets see.
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Yes I noticed this too. Especially the Big Round Numbers PPZs.
But there are thing you can't see on a chart that could halt or even turn the price.

I was reading this post couple of days ago. As i found it relative so throwing it in.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...ostcount=43953

and what about long lost monthly PPZ's. You can easily miss them on a 4h or daily chart.
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I reckon you'll get another chance...it initially bounced of a 4HR PPZ and is now retracing from another 4H PPZ...the TL now lines up with the lower PPZ...Oil is bouncing of a confluenced area too.
No your TL and PPZ won't hold price will break it.

Ok now see what we get on Double Bottom.
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Additionally to that post, fib expansions would be a good candidate for future support and resistance where there was no previously known support/resistance. (If price ever makes an all time high or low)
Well i don't use them, But again if you'r Fib Expansion lines up with a long term PPZ it could be a nice confluence.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 5:40am
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Check these beauty people.

Just 12 mins............
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Non of them break. SL hit on EJ touch.
Waiting for the Double Tops now.
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Thanks for the heads up, Nasir. I have been watching this AUD/JPY triple/quadruple top too. Divergence all over the place and just waiting now for the price action at 87.30 - 50 and I nearly jumped the gun on the H1 pin bar...
GJ is also looking good at 145.
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Jaroo ----Great stuff appreciate the observations

Kasir----thanks for your posts

Lovejoy---great job

Ghous ---excellent posts

And to everyone----thanks--I.m learning alot here

I just wish i could post a chart or 2 ---i am having a hard time with the file---to large--it's driving me nuts.
I think it's Nasir.

Don't save your file as BMP, save it as GIF.
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Bertie, sounds really good. Can you share the set ups?

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3 Of them here.
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Non of them break. SL hit on EJ touch.
Waiting for the Double Tops now.
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Here's my PB.
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Hello people I want to ask 2 questions ,should I read the 4000 pages?? I can do it in 2 months or so ,no problem. But I want to know if there is a better way to get the info.

Another question ,is it possible to trade only daily pin bars with SL above/below the pin ?? Just for the sake of simplicity??
First 200-400 pages, all posts links in the first page and then thread summaries will put you on your way.
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Ghous any comments on UC 4H IPB. Sorry no charts. Posting from moile.
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Some InsideBars.
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hey nasir, i saw the beob on 1hr eurusd and said to myself.....im sure nasir took this trade, did u take it? lol
Yea i know i am guilty of trading those ugly PA bars.
But no i did't take it.
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Ghous any comments on UC 4H IPB. Sorry no charts. Posting from moile.
Got in @ 9963. Then took 25% off @ 9991.

Added one more position of head&shoulders @ 9968.
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lol
but but but the location wasnt bad at all imho, it was just that it formed during asian session where there are usually not as many participants
Why not the 4H inside bars?
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Ladies and Gents,

Is this worth a touch trade or it's not???????
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well that looks like i18b, i believe
im not really into ibs but ofcourse i know that you that its all about the location.
since im more into the location myself, ill be looking out for ibs around location of interest
good work nasir, good work
I also don't know how they count inside bars. lol.

It's all about location dude, and PA is a bonus.
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this is my own view on eurcad, i would like to see one of those Mike's big pin/buob before considering this trade
But see how 62 Fib + 1.35 + Monthly PPZ is lining up to the exact pip. It's a rare one.
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EUR/JPY - Good 4 Hr Pin - excellent location (fxpro chart)

Can anyone throw up the example chart?

I gotta run... (hungry) But I'm so surprised this was missed here.

Check your line charts too for those that do. Wait for these and you make it a lot easier for yourself.

(I'm out. Made money and BE'd out. But some take off on ya.)
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i know you watch oil so im throwing this chart at you, good location to watch, you might be already in not sure
throw in fibs too, im sure u know where to where to put it .....hehehehe
I still watch their behavior since i opened my real account, but am really not interested in gold, oil and dow for trading cause i don't have them on my real account.

Ok i'll narrow down your PPZ to a single point and that is 84.40.

Actullay i wan't oil to go down for my UC long.
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Hi Nasir,

In your all the 3 1H charts you posted, I see PB (well almost PB since bar is not completed) touching PPZ or BRN levels but I also see that you are already in the trade (from the Order lines in the chart). Does this mean you do not wait until the completion of the most recent bar ( quite certain to form PBs) to enter?
Is your way touch trade?
If so, what are the factors that makes you believe price will go down (since you are short in all 3 charts) once it touches those important levels?

I think it is me only but most of the...
Well i do never know if my trades will go green or red. I never know that at the end of BAR will it turn out as a PB or not.

I do four things Breakouts , Trend trading (peaks and valleys), Touch trading and PA trading.

Firstly i would consider the market i am trading in which is the most important part. You can't trade trending technique in ranging markets and vise versa. This is the reason most people can't remain consistently profitable they take 10 pips on trend trades and lookout for runners in a ranging market.

Then i markdown my nearest Monthly, Weekly and Daily PPZ's and then look for confluence factors like Fib's and TL's.

After all this i would sit on my hands and watch price behavior and wait for price to reach my levels and then BANG.

Now what happened about this particular trade that i was watching price while managing my trades from the last night posted here.

So price went up taking out my short position and then it hit PPZ at 143.80 and dropped down i checked UJ and EJ and same thing happened at marked levels in my charts. So now it was all about probability and risk, i did put sell orders on the PPZ's, price came back she took my orders and then never looked back.

It all really seems simple but i have to admit that some times it gets so much stressful when you need to take decisions in a matter of seconds. Especially when price reaches a PPZ and then you need to make tough decision to let it run, close it or reverse it altogether.
So i would recommend you to stay with the basics read thread slowly cause this thread is full of wisdom, and then make the next move.

That's a long post but i think will use as a template on the weekend to answer the PM's.
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The only time I am aware of News is when the markets are near collapse. Then you have to be careful about executing during some major interest rate announcement. And yes I was aware b/c some of my friends got laid off and wanted to grab a beer
ohhh no why are u telling us this info so late Mike.
Anyways I trust you so just sold AJ. GJ. EJ. EU. AU.
Thanks for the valuable information.
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I mean with pictures etc.
That's a software. Send Cyrus a PM about it.
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Hey Nasir,

Was wondering did you close out and go long on your UJ? This is my first touch trade Long off 92.24. Just wondering what you think.
I closed my trades but i did not took a touch trade to go long.

From my personal experience,

I got burned most of the times when i took touch trades on the very first big candle/bar after the breakouts.
So it's better to wait and let the bar close and then make your decision and looking at that huge bearish bar in uj i don't have the gut's to take a touch trade on a real account.
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Hi,nasir.khan

can you tell the difference between breakouts and trend trading(peaks & valleys)? best to see chart examples if you don't mind ??

jeurre

This one i call a breakout and P&V trades are lying out in the Peaks and Valleys thread.

I only use peaks and valleys while adding in a trend trade but not much for reversal trades. On the other hand Breakout could be both a trend trade or a CT.
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I have read about pinbar at swing high/low, but I have found out that the consideration of swing high/low position has no predictive power, because the fact that swing high/low is a swing high/low can only be known in hindsight.

Let me explain the point with the following figures. In Figure 0, we see a pinbar, but is it a swing high/low, it cannot be told yet. Price after the pinbar can go up and can down. If it goes up, you can then see it is a swing low (Figure 1), and the fortune teller now tell you their prediction works out. If the price...
Hey KK below is an example chart is for you.

Assuming we have no data before point X.

When price was traveling from point A to B the very first blue line is our major swing low.

Price breaks the swing low makes a new low at second blue line and goes up to point C. Now when it's traveling from point C to point D we will say that the second blue line is our swing low, When price is traveling from point E to F we will say that third blue line is our swing low and so on as you can see in the chart.

and this is how we choose our swing points no matter if they hold or price breaks them they are the swing points.

What you are saying is that every time we see a pin we assume that if this pin works it will be a swing low and if pin fails it won't be. Sorry but no that's not the way we do it.
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It didn't work? It looks like it worked out just as expected. A successful Pin Bar in my book.
I would've doubled my account on this one.
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Hi Nasir,

What you are talking about is "last" swing H/L rather than the simple direct meaning of swing H/L.

In your case the logic problem does not exist. Nevertheless, I am not sure , among all responses, if you are the only one taking swing H/L as the "last" swing H/L.

K.K.
Well this is how i choose my swing points, simple and effective,

that's all.
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If you take the fake chart for fun or just as a side issue, that is ok. If someone take it seriously, and treat it as if the main issue of my first post, it is very odd to me.

It doesn't contain full OHLC information, and they don't represent market dynamic, and it is so obvious that it is fake. No enough information to make a wise decision on the fake chart. I just took minimal time to sketch it for illustration.
No this is not fun.

That's what i do all day long, all day strong.
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Gooood morning guys!!

This is an Inside Bar trade....I placed the stop order on friday close...and this morning..surprise! Target easily hit!! Out at the first trouble area..
Fast +27 pips... my way to scalp the daily
Nice little cute trade haha.
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Are you watching cadjpy? 38.2fib + 90.00 round number + breakout-pullback pattern. This is my demo trade, trying to learn touch trade, any comment? Thank you.
CJ!! Not my pair.

Well just looking at your chart I don't use 38.6, just 50 and 62. Now we are only left with a PPZ and 90.

Looking at where price is coming from. There was a consolidation and then a breakout with that big bearish bar.

Breakout and Pullback. I would my breakout and pullbacks quick. I mean i want one bar breaking the level and next one should quickly comeback for the retest. In your case Pullback trade is on March-26.


So i would pass this one.

But if someone put a gun on my head, i would've moved my stop to BE ASAP.
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CJ!! Not my pair.

Well just looking at your chart I don't use 38.6, just 50 and 62. Now we are only left with a PPZ and 90.

Looking at where price is coming from. There was a consolidation and then a breakout with that big bearish bar.

So i would pass this one.

But if someone put a gun on my head, i would've moved my stop to BE ASAP.
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And one last thought.

I have recently added a filter of TL's for late pullback trades.
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hi Lyra, i'm not Nasir but would just like to say that taking a touch trade after such strong PA was very risky. i agree that the 90.00 level is a great level to look for a trade but i would be wary of that massive red bar from friday!! i would be looking for PA right now also if it wasnt for that and the fact that to me the other yen/xxx look like they want to retrace a little more yet??i would like price to close above 91.00 before i had any faith in the breakout continuing.Also cad looks pretty weak across the board.

just my 2 pips

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But we said the same thing.
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lol I hate it when I'm looking at a daily chart at the current time, and I see a lot of kick ass potentials coming up on the close of the current bar.... when the close is 13 hours away lololol
That's no problem you can adjust your watch.
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Hello Trndsurfer,
IMO, it's too early to say if this will turn out to be an IPB.
we still have several hours left before that daily candle closes.
Don't know about Ghous

but an easy pass for me in it's current shape comparing to the previous bar.
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nasir,
u mean audjpy price currently looks bullish? yeah.
let's see how it closes today/this week.
I mean shape of the IPB.
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key support at 86.5 , round numbers , uptrend intact.. not exactly a james16 version , but a risky trade that bets on the formation of a pinbar..
If you'r doing/practicing some advance stuff you need to get your pivot point right to the pip.

sometimes if you miss your zone even by 10 pips , you could be on the wrong side of the trade.
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I still watch their behavior since i opened my real account, but am really not interested in gold, oil and dow for trading cause i don't have them on my real account.

Ok i'll narrow down your PPZ to a single point and that is 84.40.

Actullay i wan't oil to go down for my UC long.
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Haha where's Squeezy,

See which level it retraced after breaking the 50 fib.
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hahahhaha, nice one Nasir
nice location indeed, didnt act as supposed initially but when it flipped....twas magical....s turning into r
was watching ucad,ecad & acad for signals but the only one i got didnt like it much.....was hesitant so decided to let it be
seemed like selling at support to me
good work , are you in any cad trade,just curious
nop no interest in any cad atm.
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Any comments on this one Ghous.

Size is better but could have been a nice setup if developed around 55.
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